1 00:00:17,130 --> 00:00:14,209 [Music] 2 00:00:19,950 --> 00:00:17,140 this hope radiates for the massive 3 00:00:22,439 --> 00:00:19,960 Atlanta between devices making voice 4 00:00:24,900 --> 00:00:22,449 better the Army Air Force was announced 5 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:24,910 that are flying this person found and is 6 00:00:31,190 --> 00:00:27,250 now in the possession of the ATO the 7 00:00:34,050 --> 00:00:31,200 game is rigged change begins games I 8 00:00:38,369 --> 00:00:34,060 occasionally think how quickly our 9 00:00:41,010 --> 00:00:38,379 differences worldwide would vanish if we 10 00:00:47,180 --> 00:00:41,020 were facing an alien threat from outside 11 00:00:54,140 --> 00:00:50,450 fade to black with your host Jim church 12 00:00:59,420 --> 00:00:54,150 on the GameChanger radio network KCRA 13 00:01:08,370 --> 00:01:04,630 I need your help to get to the year 1985 14 00:01:10,740 --> 00:01:08,380 [Music] 15 00:01:13,380 --> 00:01:10,750 you're the fancy face to drag with Jenny 16 00:01:17,149 --> 00:01:13,390 George only game-changing Network 17 00:01:20,849 --> 00:01:17,159 [Music] 18 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:20,859 well well well fade to black how you do 19 00:01:35,969 --> 00:01:29,770 it this spoke radio for some masses yeah 20 00:01:39,690 --> 00:01:35,979 men today's Wednesday June 21st 171 days 21 00:01:42,270 --> 00:01:39,700 into the new year just 194 days left we 22 00:01:44,669 --> 00:01:42,280 are live from a bunker somewhere in 23 00:01:46,289 --> 00:01:44,679 downtown Burbank California and I would 24 00:01:48,899 --> 00:01:46,299 like to welcome everybody listening all 25 00:01:51,089 --> 00:01:48,909 around the world all across the United 26 00:01:53,819 --> 00:01:51,099 States hither and thither to and fro 27 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:53,829 back and forth up and down east and west 28 00:02:01,199 --> 00:01:56,770 north and south far and near 29 00:02:04,770 --> 00:02:01,209 this is fade to black for kjc are the 30 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:04,780 game changer network and Keiji are a the 31 00:02:08,850 --> 00:02:07,810 planet I Merrill Jimmy Church what is 32 00:02:14,710 --> 00:02:08,860 crack and everybody it's Wednesday 33 00:02:19,270 --> 00:02:16,870 because we have very special guests with 34 00:02:22,530 --> 00:02:19,280 this director and filmmaker Michael 35 00:02:24,940 --> 00:02:22,540 Missoula that's right he's here tonight 36 00:02:28,060 --> 00:02:24,950 and we're going to talk about his life's 37 00:02:30,340 --> 00:02:28,070 journey we've got to do just that and 38 00:02:32,470 --> 00:02:30,350 the making of the film unacknowledged 39 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:32,480 and some of the other things that he's 40 00:02:35,950 --> 00:02:34,010 out there doing right now trying to 41 00:02:37,930 --> 00:02:35,960 change the world we're going to do all 42 00:02:41,500 --> 00:02:37,940 of that tonight Michael is a great guy 43 00:02:42,640 --> 00:02:41,510 very smart and talented so we're going 44 00:02:44,500 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00:09:19,640 Snowden and he's over there in Russia 201 00:09:25,710 --> 00:09:22,430 right now and I'm sure he is having a 202 00:09:30,790 --> 00:09:25,720 very cool Russian birthday today he's 34 203 00:09:35,170 --> 00:09:30,800 Juliette Lewis today is 44 and then 204 00:09:39,570 --> 00:09:35,180 there is Chris Pratt Chris Pratt today 205 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:39,580 is 38 and he made the list because of 206 00:09:44,890 --> 00:09:42,170 guardians of the galaxy that's right 207 00:09:46,570 --> 00:09:44,900 love that movie love them both I'm sure 208 00:09:50,470 --> 00:09:46,580 there's a part 3 coming out played 209 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:50,480 star-lord in guardians of the galaxy 210 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:52,970 then that first movie probably had the 211 00:09:58,900 --> 00:09:55,730 greatest soundtrack well probably top 10 212 00:10:04,900 --> 00:09:58,910 of all time and that says a lot ot D on 213 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:04,910 this day in history 1975 John Hinckley 214 00:10:11,860 --> 00:10:08,210 jr. who shot President Ronald Reagan and 215 00:10:16,630 --> 00:10:11,870 three others was found not guilty of 216 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:16,640 attempted murder by reason of insanity 217 00:10:24,930 --> 00:10:19,490 I think he's released to I mean he's I 218 00:10:27,730 --> 00:10:24,940 think he's out he's at home Seder fact a 219 00:10:30,490 --> 00:10:27,740 microwave oven now this this is this is 220 00:10:33,430 --> 00:10:30,500 vetted this is a fact this is something 221 00:10:35,890 --> 00:10:33,440 that you can tomorrow share with your 222 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:35,900 friends or you can type it up right now 223 00:10:41,140 --> 00:10:38,090 post it up in Twitter and and look like 224 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:41,150 you're really cool okay all right you 225 00:10:51,220 --> 00:10:48,050 ready Jim brewer really chip happy 226 00:10:53,740 --> 00:10:51,230 birthday Jim brew yeah okay I didn't 227 00:10:54,340 --> 00:10:53,750 catch that one today but happy birthday 228 00:10:59,850 --> 00:10:54,350 Jim brew 229 00:11:04,180 --> 00:10:59,860 all right fader fact a microwave oven 230 00:11:07,630 --> 00:11:04,190 uses more electricity keeping it's 231 00:11:13,410 --> 00:11:07,640 digital clock on standby 232 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:13,420 than it does heating your food and that 233 00:11:21,009 --> 00:11:18,130 this is a fader fact that's trippy 234 00:11:22,420 --> 00:11:21,019 that's trippy it's a fact all right 235 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:22,430 tonight very special guest right here 236 00:11:26,560 --> 00:11:25,130 director filmmaker Michael Missoula is 237 00:11:28,660 --> 00:11:26,570 here we're going to talk about his life 238 00:11:31,180 --> 00:11:28,670 journey and it's a good one and the 239 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:31,190 making of unacknowledged and we're going 240 00:11:35,110 --> 00:11:33,290 to get the backstory with all of that 241 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:35,120 and tomorrow night's another failure 242 00:11:37,780 --> 00:11:36,290 tonight with Jon Rappoport 243 00:11:40,380 --> 00:11:37,790 and his no more fake newsroom live 244 00:11:45,100 --> 00:11:40,390 followed by open lines all night long 245 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:45,110 all right if you had the bunker cam this 246 00:11:49,810 --> 00:11:46,850 is the point of the show where I hit my 247 00:11:56,350 --> 00:11:49,820 River moon coffee promo code F to be 248 00:11:59,199 --> 00:11:56,360 blend mmm I swear somebody tweeted last 249 00:12:01,569 --> 00:11:59,209 night somebody tweeted last night I got 250 00:12:07,900 --> 00:12:01,579 two pounds of a fade to black blend 251 00:12:11,230 --> 00:12:07,910 yesterday and now I get it okay it's 252 00:12:13,569 --> 00:12:11,240 true bad every time I've ever seen 253 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:13,579 anybody take their first sip of fade to 254 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:15,050 black blend we do it over at the house 255 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:17,810 parties contacting the desert was great 256 00:12:21,100 --> 00:12:18,890 because they have their booth there and 257 00:12:22,269 --> 00:12:21,110 I got too much everybody go well okay 258 00:12:24,610 --> 00:12:22,279 let's go check it out let's see what 259 00:12:29,860 --> 00:12:24,620 it's all about and watch their face that 260 00:12:32,500 --> 00:12:29,870 first sip just watch they go I can it 261 00:12:35,199 --> 00:12:32,510 man you're a hike man Church but you're 262 00:12:37,329 --> 00:12:35,209 not hyping this stuff enough man it's 263 00:12:38,710 --> 00:12:37,339 really that good okay all right 264 00:12:39,910 --> 00:12:38,720 just talking about it makes me want to 265 00:12:42,939 --> 00:12:39,920 take another sip but I won't do that 266 00:12:45,269 --> 00:12:42,949 that's not professional if you have the 267 00:12:48,519 --> 00:12:45,279 bunker cam right before the show tonight 268 00:12:50,620 --> 00:12:48,529 when you become a fade or not and you 269 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:50,630 become a member you get the live video 270 00:12:56,350 --> 00:12:54,050 feed hey everybody how you doing and so 271 00:12:57,970 --> 00:12:56,360 for five minutes before the show you may 272 00:13:00,970 --> 00:12:57,980 not know this but for five minutes 273 00:13:03,759 --> 00:13:00,980 before the show I pop in and say hello 274 00:13:06,310 --> 00:13:03,769 to everybody and you know and share some 275 00:13:07,650 --> 00:13:06,320 secret stuff that you only get when you 276 00:13:13,180 --> 00:13:07,660 remember 277 00:13:19,150 --> 00:13:13,190 sort of and so tonight I had mentioned 278 00:13:20,430 --> 00:13:19,160 that my sources over well let's just say 279 00:13:21,690 --> 00:13:20,440 this my source 280 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:21,700 I don't want to get anybody in trouble 281 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:27,010 my sources told me that guy is video of 282 00:13:32,220 --> 00:13:30,130 the alien mummy which is not their title 283 00:13:36,110 --> 00:13:32,230 it's called nazca uncovered but I've 284 00:13:42,870 --> 00:13:36,120 been calling it the alien mummy video 285 00:13:45,410 --> 00:13:42,880 overnight got 7 million views now I'm in 286 00:13:48,690 --> 00:13:45,420 one day now let me clarify here 287 00:13:51,060 --> 00:13:48,700 yesterday they got three million views 288 00:13:54,420 --> 00:13:51,070 three million overnight they got an 289 00:14:00,720 --> 00:13:54,430 additional 4 million views this morning 290 00:14:03,330 --> 00:14:00,730 they were over 7 million views 7 million 291 00:14:06,950 --> 00:14:03,340 is it Bob's birthday no it's not 292 00:14:11,310 --> 00:14:06,960 is it Bob's birthday happy birthday Bob 293 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:11,320 seriously eating some of Bev's birthday 294 00:14:18,150 --> 00:14:15,010 chocolate chip cookies ah man happy 295 00:14:19,170 --> 00:14:18,160 birthday Bob we'll get you a look at 296 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:19,180 something 297 00:14:28,590 --> 00:14:22,810 happy birthday Bob I didn't know 7 298 00:14:33,630 --> 00:14:28,600 million views in one day now what does 299 00:14:35,310 --> 00:14:33,640 that tell you it tells me that there are 300 00:14:36,750 --> 00:14:35,320 a lot of people out there that are 301 00:14:40,590 --> 00:14:36,760 interested in this video that are 302 00:14:42,150 --> 00:14:40,600 outside of our UFO community and what I 303 00:14:44,370 --> 00:14:42,160 mean by that is I'm not talking about 304 00:14:46,380 --> 00:14:44,380 the three-letter agencies in Washington 305 00:14:48,690 --> 00:14:46,390 of course that's included but that's 306 00:14:52,290 --> 00:14:48,700 only a few hundred people or whatever 307 00:14:56,220 --> 00:14:52,300 you know small number but in our UFO 308 00:14:59,490 --> 00:14:56,230 community our community you know where 309 00:15:06,230 --> 00:14:59,500 everybody knows everybody ok it's it's 310 00:15:12,210 --> 00:15:06,240 big it's cool but 7 million in one day 311 00:15:16,620 --> 00:15:12,220 right now it has now been exposed to a 312 00:15:18,660 --> 00:15:16,630 ton of people a ton that are showing 313 00:15:21,329 --> 00:15:18,670 interest in this and that's what's most 314 00:15:22,410 --> 00:15:21,339 important that know nothing about UFOs 315 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:22,420 yeah they know if they've seen 316 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:24,210 transformers and they've seen 317 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:26,890 Independence Day and they've seen alien 318 00:15:31,410 --> 00:15:29,050 movies but they've never watched ancient 319 00:15:33,030 --> 00:15:31,420 aliens or they don't know about coast to 320 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:33,040 coast they don't know about fade to 321 00:15:36,620 --> 00:15:33,570 black 322 00:15:39,910 --> 00:15:36,630 right that's what I'm talking about 323 00:15:43,100 --> 00:15:39,920 those people like your boss at work 324 00:15:44,300 --> 00:15:43,110 right so this has gotten out there it's 325 00:15:45,740 --> 00:15:44,310 gotten into the mainstream and it's 326 00:15:52,100 --> 00:15:45,750 going to continue to do that this is 327 00:15:58,569 --> 00:15:52,110 only day two today so with that we need 328 00:16:01,790 --> 00:15:58,579 to be very careful now at this point 329 00:16:05,620 --> 00:16:01,800 right now at this point this is where 330 00:16:09,639 --> 00:16:05,630 our community needs to and Gaius 331 00:16:14,090 --> 00:16:09,649 specifically needs to be very very 332 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:14,100 careful very careful you slip and fall 333 00:16:21,430 --> 00:16:20,730 on this one move Fah right you just 334 00:16:25,189 --> 00:16:21,440 can't do it 335 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:25,199 we cannot slip and fall 336 00:16:33,639 --> 00:16:29,610 I mean asan cannot slip and fall again 337 00:16:36,829 --> 00:16:33,649 for sure but our community in general 338 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:36,839 cannot and gaya right now is 339 00:16:43,430 --> 00:16:39,050 representing us to the rest of the world 340 00:16:47,389 --> 00:16:43,440 like gaya not like gaya that's not the 341 00:16:49,309 --> 00:16:47,399 point right now the way that guy has got 342 00:16:51,110 --> 00:16:49,319 their stuff set up with their stable of 343 00:16:53,329 --> 00:16:51,120 host over there they've got some very 344 00:16:56,269 --> 00:16:53,339 cool incredible people 345 00:17:01,639 --> 00:16:56,279 Deshawn stone Linda Moulton Howe of 346 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:01,649 course Wilcock Cory Goods over there you 347 00:17:07,429 --> 00:17:03,690 know they've just got a very strong line 348 00:17:10,039 --> 00:17:07,439 up over a gaya things are good but this 349 00:17:14,360 --> 00:17:10,049 thing is bigger than all of them 350 00:17:18,260 --> 00:17:14,370 combined how big seven million views in 351 00:17:21,890 --> 00:17:18,270 24 hours that's insanity and it's going 352 00:17:23,750 --> 00:17:21,900 to continue like that for them because 353 00:17:27,380 --> 00:17:23,760 this is different 354 00:17:30,409 --> 00:17:27,390 sure it could be an alien yes three 355 00:17:32,990 --> 00:17:30,419 fingers three toes but what it does do 356 00:17:35,510 --> 00:17:33,000 for the entire world is it's a game 357 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:35,520 changer it's exactly what this show is 358 00:17:41,590 --> 00:17:38,490 about it's a game changer this is a 359 00:17:44,360 --> 00:17:41,600 history changing situation here 360 00:17:47,030 --> 00:17:44,370 everything gets rewritten everything 361 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:47,040 changes the paradigm shift is immediate 362 00:17:59,720 --> 00:17:53,730 done so why are we cautious our 363 00:18:04,040 --> 00:17:59,730 community our community went through the 364 00:18:08,290 --> 00:18:04,050 alien autopsy that film I was literally 365 00:18:13,850 --> 00:18:08,300 speaking with a pretty top-shelf 366 00:18:15,620 --> 00:18:13,860 researcher top 5 last week and we were 367 00:18:17,750 --> 00:18:15,630 talking about some other stuff and I 368 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:17,760 brought up and this is before this this 369 00:18:22,250 --> 00:18:20,490 broke this broke yesterday and I brought 370 00:18:24,830 --> 00:18:22,260 up the alien autopsy film and this 371 00:18:30,410 --> 00:18:24,840 researcher actually said to me that that 372 00:18:34,630 --> 00:18:30,420 film was real like no it wasn't and and 373 00:18:37,970 --> 00:18:34,640 we started to go toe to toe on this but 374 00:18:39,530 --> 00:18:37,980 okay so that being said there are people 375 00:18:41,450 --> 00:18:39,540 in this community that still want to say 376 00:18:43,250 --> 00:18:41,460 the thing an autopsy film is real it is 377 00:18:47,620 --> 00:18:43,260 not I don't care doesn't matter that's 378 00:18:49,730 --> 00:18:47,630 my opinion but we went through that hoax 379 00:18:54,530 --> 00:18:49,740 we went through that hoax 380 00:18:57,140 --> 00:18:54,540 last year the Roswell slides and what 381 00:19:01,700 --> 00:18:57,150 happened it was just a miserable 382 00:19:03,710 --> 00:19:01,710 experience not only for the people that 383 00:19:10,580 --> 00:19:03,720 were directly involved I'm talking about 384 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:10,590 Don Schmitt and of the the immediate 385 00:19:15,530 --> 00:19:13,050 circle and then you have some that were 386 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:15,540 involved on the outside unintentionally 387 00:19:23,270 --> 00:19:19,650 like Richard Dolan and he got dragged 388 00:19:26,330 --> 00:19:23,280 through the mud and and so did we on 389 00:19:28,700 --> 00:19:26,340 this show and all I ever said about the 390 00:19:30,980 --> 00:19:28,710 Roswell slide was we need to be cautious 391 00:19:32,420 --> 00:19:30,990 man I remember the alien autopsy film 392 00:19:35,270 --> 00:19:32,430 this is just a piece of film this is not 393 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:35,280 a body this is not a body this is a 394 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:38,690 slide and you're hanging the entire of 395 00:19:44,540 --> 00:19:41,850 the entirety of everything on a slide 396 00:19:47,780 --> 00:19:44,550 you can't DNA test a slide you cannot 397 00:19:51,500 --> 00:19:47,790 carbon-14 test a slide you can't do 398 00:19:55,910 --> 00:19:51,510 anything with a slide and ended I there 399 00:19:56,780 --> 00:19:55,920 was just an even because I had a Schmidt 400 00:20:07,610 --> 00:19:56,790 and 401 00:20:09,410 --> 00:20:07,620 Mexico City that that I backed up the 402 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:09,420 slides and I never did I never did I 403 00:20:18,770 --> 00:20:15,530 never never did but it ruined careers it 404 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:18,780 ruined people and it's hard for our 405 00:20:24,470 --> 00:20:22,770 community to pick up and where we left 406 00:20:28,490 --> 00:20:24,480 off and move on 407 00:20:30,950 --> 00:20:28,500 now we have this incredible video the 408 00:20:34,130 --> 00:20:30,960 video and I said just a few minutes ago 409 00:20:37,220 --> 00:20:34,140 right before showtime I posted up in 410 00:20:41,450 --> 00:20:37,230 Facebook I said it's I candy this is 411 00:20:46,150 --> 00:20:41,460 amazing this is fun to look at look at 412 00:20:51,700 --> 00:20:46,160 what what is here this isn't a slide 413 00:20:55,340 --> 00:20:51,710 this is a body this is a mummy this is a 414 00:20:56,930 --> 00:20:55,350 organic this is biological now testing 415 00:20:58,850 --> 00:20:56,940 is being done but this is something that 416 00:21:02,210 --> 00:20:58,860 we can test we can touch we can look at 417 00:21:05,390 --> 00:21:02,220 this is a totally different situation it 418 00:21:08,180 --> 00:21:05,400 came out of the ground somewhere so we 419 00:21:10,220 --> 00:21:08,190 have that archaeological possibilities 420 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:10,230 that are there the artifacts that were 421 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:12,930 around this of which will we will talk 422 00:21:15,860 --> 00:21:14,250 over the next couple of weeks there's 423 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:15,870 more information coming out on this to 424 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:18,090 can't talk about it right now but we 425 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:21,210 will be this is a different situation 426 00:21:30,020 --> 00:21:26,810 and we need to proceed with caution 427 00:21:33,770 --> 00:21:30,030 get excited I'm excited because if this 428 00:21:39,410 --> 00:21:33,780 is what what you see in the felt if this 429 00:21:43,370 --> 00:21:39,420 is what we think holy crap right this is 430 00:21:45,500 --> 00:21:43,380 it this this is int I don't know what's 431 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:45,510 going to happen I really don't I don't 432 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:46,650 know what's going to go further 433 00:21:51,380 --> 00:21:49,290 I don't our government is going to get 434 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:51,390 involved of course they are colleges and 435 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:54,570 universities and different if it is what 436 00:21:59,030 --> 00:21:57,210 it is everybody's going to want to test 437 00:22:01,730 --> 00:21:59,040 this everybody's going to want to talk 438 00:22:04,430 --> 00:22:01,740 about this everybody's going to that how 439 00:22:07,299 --> 00:22:04,440 many teachers and professors around the 440 00:22:12,470 --> 00:22:07,309 world are going to be talking about this 441 00:22:16,909 --> 00:22:12,480 they have to so we need to proceed if it 442 00:22:19,610 --> 00:22:16,919 turns out to be some crazy hoax and the 443 00:22:22,030 --> 00:22:19,620 elaborate as it is whoever whoever had 444 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:22,040 pulled this off needs a job in Hollywood 445 00:22:28,340 --> 00:22:24,570 tomorrow somebody's going to pay that 446 00:22:31,220 --> 00:22:28,350 guy a lot of money I just don't know how 447 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:31,230 it can be hoaxed I don't this is 448 00:22:36,980 --> 00:22:33,570 different from the Roswell slides this 449 00:22:40,700 --> 00:22:36,990 is different from the alien autopsy film 450 00:22:43,820 --> 00:22:40,710 and I wanted to address this the alien 451 00:22:47,270 --> 00:22:43,830 autopsy film was a videotape and if you 452 00:22:49,970 --> 00:22:47,280 remember Ray Santilli said well I've got 453 00:22:52,190 --> 00:22:49,980 the film and we've tested the film in 454 00:22:55,570 --> 00:22:52,200 the film but there was no body to test 455 00:23:01,400 --> 00:22:55,580 that's different you only had the film 456 00:23:06,890 --> 00:23:01,410 it was different okay all right yes nope 457 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:06,900 yeah I saw that Snopes is uh jumping in 458 00:23:11,390 --> 00:23:09,090 on this too as well I'll read Snopes 459 00:23:14,659 --> 00:23:11,400 later I don't have time to do this now 460 00:23:18,530 --> 00:23:14,669 but of course there there are right now 461 00:23:22,130 --> 00:23:18,540 right now every debunker every skeptic 462 00:23:23,870 --> 00:23:22,140 every website everybody that is part of 463 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:23,880 that side of the fence is jumping all 464 00:23:29,810 --> 00:23:25,530 over this of course they are and they 465 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:29,820 have to and we need them to do that now 466 00:23:38,690 --> 00:23:35,010 the the the the one thing and going back 467 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:38,700 to the Roswell slides that was debunked 468 00:23:43,340 --> 00:23:41,610 in ours with the power of the Internet 469 00:23:45,380 --> 00:23:43,350 the power of our community get all those 470 00:23:46,820 --> 00:23:45,390 brains together and there's everybody's 471 00:23:48,289 --> 00:23:46,830 got their own little specialties and 472 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:48,299 they were all able to come together and 473 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:50,850 find that software and get that placard 474 00:23:57,260 --> 00:23:53,970 and and decode it and and so forth right 475 00:24:00,830 --> 00:23:57,270 okay it's the same thing here with with 476 00:24:03,860 --> 00:24:00,840 this that's exactly what our community 477 00:24:07,430 --> 00:24:03,870 needs to do my eyes see what they see 478 00:24:11,270 --> 00:24:07,440 it's it's it's eye candy it's amazing 479 00:24:13,220 --> 00:24:11,280 but with the alien autopsy video that's 480 00:24:14,750 --> 00:24:13,230 all that we we didn't have a body we 481 00:24:17,539 --> 00:24:14,760 didn't have witnesses to interview we 482 00:24:20,149 --> 00:24:17,549 didn't and none of that came into play 483 00:24:21,020 --> 00:24:20,159 it was just a hoax purported by Ray 484 00:24:23,300 --> 00:24:21,030 Santilli 485 00:24:26,420 --> 00:24:23,310 rooo video together to make money that's 486 00:24:29,090 --> 00:24:26,430 all that was okay there was no evidence 487 00:24:33,590 --> 00:24:29,100 there was nothing there at all 488 00:24:36,710 --> 00:24:33,600 none none Ray Santilli to this day is 489 00:24:40,070 --> 00:24:36,720 laughing at our community raise Han 490 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:40,080 Tilley it made fifty million dollars in 491 00:24:45,620 --> 00:24:42,930 a couple of months and and disappeared 492 00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:45,630 back into the music industry you think 493 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:47,370 he wants to come on this show or talk to 494 00:24:54,530 --> 00:24:49,770 anybody in the UFO community and never 495 00:24:56,930 --> 00:24:54,540 again if we were used okay this is a 496 00:25:01,220 --> 00:24:56,940 different situation we have a physical 497 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:01,230 body it's organic and it's there it's 498 00:25:07,340 --> 00:25:03,330 been carbon-dated all of that is there 499 00:25:09,950 --> 00:25:07,350 so now we will be able to continue the 500 00:25:12,020 --> 00:25:09,960 testing continue what you know the DNA 501 00:25:15,860 --> 00:25:12,030 testing is being done right now right 502 00:25:19,970 --> 00:25:15,870 now as we speak there are about and I'll 503 00:25:23,750 --> 00:25:19,980 say this I can say this much there's 504 00:25:26,870 --> 00:25:23,760 about five or six other key situations 505 00:25:31,220 --> 00:25:26,880 here outside of the mummy outside of the 506 00:25:33,530 --> 00:25:31,230 body itself that I had said to my 507 00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:33,540 sources this is too much for me to 508 00:25:42,500 --> 00:25:38,370 handle it's too much going that far 509 00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:42,510 right now is crazy talk because if that 510 00:25:51,410 --> 00:25:45,510 stuff is true if that stuff plays out 511 00:25:54,470 --> 00:25:51,420 plus the money whoa whoa whoa whoa it's 512 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:54,480 too much it is literally the flying 513 00:25:57,740 --> 00:25:56,850 saucer on the White House lawn take me 514 00:26:01,280 --> 00:25:57,750 to your leader 515 00:26:03,170 --> 00:26:01,290 it's that extreme so we have all of this 516 00:26:06,020 --> 00:26:03,180 this time around we have we have 517 00:26:10,010 --> 00:26:06,030 evidence and and we have evidence to 518 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:10,020 debunk to as well right we have we have 519 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:12,930 that part of it we can actually debunked 520 00:26:16,370 --> 00:26:15,450 this it's not a piece of film it's not a 521 00:26:19,130 --> 00:26:16,380 videotape 522 00:26:21,620 --> 00:26:19,140 no witnesses no this time around we have 523 00:26:24,260 --> 00:26:21,630 all of that stuff so if we're going to 524 00:26:26,210 --> 00:26:24,270 take it apart we can take it apart if we 525 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:26,220 need to take it apart we can if we need 526 00:26:31,340 --> 00:26:28,410 to blow this out of the water we will do 527 00:26:34,110 --> 00:26:31,350 that us as a community will not stand 528 00:26:38,549 --> 00:26:34,120 for another black eye 529 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:38,559 we will not now I trust I trust some 530 00:26:44,010 --> 00:26:40,210 friends that are involved with this here 531 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:44,020 that I'm being told the truth now that 532 00:26:51,090 --> 00:26:48,010 that being said even I I'm not backing 533 00:26:52,590 --> 00:26:51,100 up anything I can't do I'm not going to 534 00:26:55,590 --> 00:26:52,600 do it I'm not going to get my hopes up 535 00:26:59,460 --> 00:26:55,600 what I really want is this to play out 536 00:27:03,240 --> 00:26:59,470 as something that cannot be debunked 537 00:27:05,310 --> 00:27:03,250 that it is from 245 ad to 410 AD that it 538 00:27:07,590 --> 00:27:05,320 is a body that it really does have three 539 00:27:10,590 --> 00:27:07,600 fingers and three toes it really does 540 00:27:12,210 --> 00:27:10,600 this isn't some reconstruction something 541 00:27:13,500 --> 00:27:12,220 that has been aged something that has 542 00:27:15,930 --> 00:27:13,510 been put together by somebody that's 543 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:15,940 really really smart no I want it to be a 544 00:27:21,029 --> 00:27:18,850 body I want it to be exactly what it's 545 00:27:23,370 --> 00:27:21,039 supposed to be because then we can move 546 00:27:27,210 --> 00:27:23,380 on we can study and figure all of this 547 00:27:28,769 --> 00:27:27,220 out that's my take all right now I want 548 00:27:31,850 --> 00:27:28,779 to remind everybody that we are going to 549 00:27:34,710 --> 00:27:31,860 take things a step further because on 550 00:27:37,950 --> 00:27:34,720 Monday or this Friday night I'm going to 551 00:27:39,570 --> 00:27:37,960 have Jay Widener on from Gaia over with 552 00:27:41,580 --> 00:27:39,580 me on coast to coast he's going to do 553 00:27:44,279 --> 00:27:41,590 the first segment with me before David 554 00:27:46,919 --> 00:27:44,289 Wilcock and I've got a list of questions 555 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:46,929 and I will say this now again publicly I 556 00:27:51,360 --> 00:27:49,210 told Jay I'm not leaking you any 557 00:27:53,789 --> 00:27:51,370 questions brah and they're all going to 558 00:27:55,919 --> 00:27:53,799 be the real ones he said bring it I'm 559 00:27:57,269 --> 00:27:55,929 ready so that's what's going to happen 560 00:27:59,070 --> 00:27:57,279 on Friday night we couldn't do it 561 00:28:01,289 --> 00:27:59,080 tonight or tomorrow so we're going to do 562 00:28:03,659 --> 00:28:01,299 that but then on Monday Jay is going to 563 00:28:05,610 --> 00:28:03,669 be here 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listening to Jimmy George radio 637 00:31:50,090 --> 00:31:48,690 calm what's up cuz what open a comment 638 00:31:52,270 --> 00:31:50,100 and we're listening to Jimmy Church 639 00:32:07,539 --> 00:31:52,280 radio 640 00:32:14,539 --> 00:32:10,730 all right welcome back fade to black I'm 641 00:32:17,810 --> 00:32:14,549 host Jimmy Church yeah man follow me on 642 00:32:21,379 --> 00:32:17,820 Twitter at JD radio I'm thinking changer 643 00:32:22,269 --> 00:32:21,389 Network in kg ra the planet Wednesday 644 00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:22,279 night 645 00:32:28,820 --> 00:32:25,110 what a crazy 24 hours has been in our 646 00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:28,830 community just exciting beyond words and 647 00:32:34,310 --> 00:32:31,049 then after everything that we've done on 648 00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:34,320 the show this week just just amazing 649 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:36,240 stuff in conversation tonight our guest 650 00:32:40,310 --> 00:32:38,730 is Michael Missoula he is an 651 00:32:42,769 --> 00:32:40,320 award-winning filmmaker we started 652 00:32:44,450 --> 00:32:42,779 making documentaries in middle school he 653 00:32:46,609 --> 00:32:44,460 became interested in UFOs and 654 00:32:49,249 --> 00:32:46,619 conspiracies while studying film at NYU 655 00:32:52,730 --> 00:32:49,259 and went on to direct dr. Steven Greer 656 00:32:55,669 --> 00:32:52,740 is worldwide hit unacknowledged which is 657 00:32:58,549 --> 00:32:55,679 an expose of the deep state he's also an 658 00:33:01,190 --> 00:32:58,559 interpretor he's developing technologies 659 00:33:03,470 --> 00:33:01,200 that defy the establishment paradigm and 660 00:33:05,899 --> 00:33:03,480 in an effort to bring in an awareness of 661 00:33:08,450 --> 00:33:05,909 consciousness and emerges emerging 662 00:33:10,609 --> 00:33:08,460 physics to the world through consumer 663 00:33:12,739 --> 00:33:10,619 technology tonight we're going to 664 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:12,749 discuss his life's journey how he 665 00:33:16,909 --> 00:33:14,490 developed and directed the film 666 00:33:19,399 --> 00:33:16,919 unacknowledged and of course the 667 00:33:21,169 --> 00:33:19,409 movement towards disclosure and I would 668 00:33:22,180 --> 00:33:21,179 like to welcome to fade to black I'm 669 00:33:24,859 --> 00:33:22,190 excited 670 00:33:28,489 --> 00:33:24,869 Michael Missoula Michael good evening my 671 00:33:30,409 --> 00:33:28,499 friend hey Jimmy it's awesome to be here 672 00:33:32,090 --> 00:33:30,419 thank you for having me on are you 673 00:33:37,869 --> 00:33:32,100 wearing your fade to black hat right now 674 00:33:40,820 --> 00:33:37,879 I am NOT I finally got a haircut okay 675 00:33:43,129 --> 00:33:40,830 there you go there you go welcome to the 676 00:33:45,230 --> 00:33:43,139 show Michael and before we kick things 677 00:33:46,879 --> 00:33:45,240 off you get the first-time guests 678 00:33:48,950 --> 00:33:46,889 disclaimer I know you've been waiting 679 00:33:51,259 --> 00:33:48,960 for this so let's do it it's just you 680 00:33:53,330 --> 00:33:51,269 and me sitting on my couch talking his 681 00:33:55,730 --> 00:33:53,340 friends wherever the conversation starts 682 00:33:57,470 --> 00:33:55,740 it starts wherever it ends it ends but 683 00:34:01,279 --> 00:33:57,480 we're going to end his friends are you 684 00:34:03,799 --> 00:34:01,289 ready I'm ready let's do it so you know 685 00:34:06,499 --> 00:34:03,809 what I don't even know where to start 686 00:34:08,359 --> 00:34:06,509 with you because well first off you know 687 00:34:10,579 --> 00:34:08,369 we're friends okay so we have that 688 00:34:13,550 --> 00:34:10,589 element of things and we have a mutual 689 00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:13,560 of respect for each other okay all right 690 00:34:18,020 --> 00:34:17,129 cool great but it's a tough world out 691 00:34:21,020 --> 00:34:18,030 there 692 00:34:25,129 --> 00:34:21,030 and for you getting into the world of 693 00:34:27,619 --> 00:34:25,139 ufology I need to ask you this did you 694 00:34:30,590 --> 00:34:27,629 think it was going to be what it turned 695 00:34:33,430 --> 00:34:30,600 out to be this community this world this 696 00:34:37,399 --> 00:34:33,440 environment it's pretty crazy isn't it 697 00:34:39,470 --> 00:34:37,409 it's it's beyond crazy and no it's 698 00:34:43,399 --> 00:34:39,480 nothing like what I expected I thought I 699 00:34:46,820 --> 00:34:43,409 was part of this community already but 700 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:46,830 when I started working with with dr. 701 00:34:52,310 --> 00:34:49,290 Greer and I really got into the trenches 702 00:34:56,450 --> 00:34:52,320 and and saw it sort of from his 703 00:34:59,750 --> 00:34:56,460 perspective it completely it completely 704 00:35:02,150 --> 00:34:59,760 blew my mind and you know I got a little 705 00:35:02,990 --> 00:35:02,160 bit more than I bargained for but I have 706 00:35:05,060 --> 00:35:03,000 no regrets 707 00:35:10,490 --> 00:35:05,070 well yeah you jumped in with both feet 708 00:35:14,270 --> 00:35:10,500 for sure you know and the the the world 709 00:35:17,270 --> 00:35:14,280 out there when it comes to ufology you 710 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:17,280 have so many different conflicting 711 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:19,290 because we just don't know right we 712 00:35:25,220 --> 00:35:22,530 don't really know no we're waiting for 713 00:35:27,770 --> 00:35:25,230 that but we there are so many 714 00:35:31,220 --> 00:35:27,780 conflicting views and certainly dr. 715 00:35:35,090 --> 00:35:31,230 Greer has his his side of things and 716 00:35:37,550 --> 00:35:35,100 there are a thousand other authors and 717 00:35:39,230 --> 00:35:37,560 researchers out there that alive today 718 00:35:41,390 --> 00:35:39,240 they're writing books and have their 719 00:35:43,730 --> 00:35:41,400 experiences that all have their views 720 00:35:45,020 --> 00:35:43,740 and you pull up a thousand of them 721 00:35:48,370 --> 00:35:45,030 you're going to have a thousand 722 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:48,380 different stories takes theories and 723 00:35:54,110 --> 00:35:51,690 experiences and and they do conflict and 724 00:35:56,660 --> 00:35:54,120 when you start to see that it's not what 725 00:36:02,690 --> 00:35:56,670 you which you thought the world was was 726 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:02,700 it uh not at all everybody is so certain 727 00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:05,490 with the the rightness of their of their 728 00:36:11,210 --> 00:36:08,640 position and and it's it's not that 729 00:36:13,700 --> 00:36:11,220 their thumbs are all wrong is that 730 00:36:15,830 --> 00:36:13,710 they're all right in their own way right 731 00:36:20,030 --> 00:36:15,840 and I am you know I'm probably more 732 00:36:27,050 --> 00:36:20,040 confused now than I was a year ago in 733 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:27,060 some ways but it's not you hi all right 734 00:36:31,849 --> 00:36:29,490 look at where everyone overlaps right 735 00:36:33,710 --> 00:36:31,859 I'm right and I'm confident you 736 00:36:36,529 --> 00:36:33,720 in those overlaps but there's there's so 737 00:36:40,039 --> 00:36:36,539 much gray in this in this area it can be 738 00:36:43,150 --> 00:36:40,049 overwhelming when you start to see those 739 00:36:47,450 --> 00:36:43,160 overlaps and you're compiling 740 00:36:49,569 --> 00:36:47,460 information certainly you have looked 741 00:36:51,890 --> 00:36:49,579 through all of Greer's evidence 742 00:36:53,509 --> 00:36:51,900 and-and-and documents and video 743 00:36:54,979 --> 00:36:53,519 testimony you had to pore through all of 744 00:36:57,229 --> 00:36:54,989 that for unacknowledged we'll get to 745 00:36:59,210 --> 00:36:57,239 that in a bit but when you start to 746 00:37:00,769 --> 00:36:59,220 collect all of this information and you 747 00:37:03,079 --> 00:37:00,779 start to see the overlaps 748 00:37:05,989 --> 00:37:03,089 what are those similarities that that 749 00:37:09,249 --> 00:37:05,999 make you go hmm where you start to see 750 00:37:13,700 --> 00:37:09,259 some of these things that are consistent 751 00:37:15,789 --> 00:37:13,710 well they they are they are all the 752 00:37:19,460 --> 00:37:15,799 things that are in unacknowledged and 753 00:37:24,529 --> 00:37:19,470 not to shamelessly plug the film but the 754 00:37:26,420 --> 00:37:24,539 the criteria uh for for the movie from 755 00:37:28,519 --> 00:37:26,430 from day one was we're not going to put 756 00:37:31,609 --> 00:37:28,529 anything in here that we can't back up 757 00:37:34,819 --> 00:37:31,619 with multiple witnesses a document a 758 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:34,829 photograph of video and it's actually 759 00:37:40,789 --> 00:37:37,170 you know choosing the least 760 00:37:43,370 --> 00:37:40,799 controversial aspects of this field and 761 00:37:45,769 --> 00:37:43,380 putting out the stuff that that we can 762 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:45,779 say with you know pretty much complete 763 00:37:52,309 --> 00:37:50,249 certainty is the case and and so as you 764 00:37:55,249 --> 00:37:52,319 can imagine there was a lot of stuff 765 00:37:58,249 --> 00:37:55,259 that we wanted to put in the film and 766 00:38:00,019 --> 00:37:58,259 couldn't a lot of it was for you know 767 00:38:02,630 --> 00:38:00,029 time constraint reasons we also didn't 768 00:38:04,759 --> 00:38:02,640 want to overwhelm people but also you 769 00:38:08,269 --> 00:38:04,769 know dr. Greer made it very clear from 770 00:38:10,660 --> 00:38:08,279 day one that were we're just putting out 771 00:38:14,930 --> 00:38:10,670 things that we can absolutely 772 00:38:18,859 --> 00:38:14,940 corroborate from multiple sources so I 773 00:38:21,829 --> 00:38:18,869 think that the the stuff that we can 774 00:38:24,470 --> 00:38:21,839 recover in the film is a good summary of 775 00:38:27,380 --> 00:38:24,480 that overlap now obviously it's not 776 00:38:30,309 --> 00:38:27,390 everything but it's a it's a decent 777 00:38:32,690 --> 00:38:30,319 foundation and you know a lot of people 778 00:38:36,289 --> 00:38:32,700 or some people have said you know how it 779 00:38:38,539 --> 00:38:36,299 feels it feels kind of basic well that's 780 00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:38,549 that's because that was sort of the 781 00:38:45,030 --> 00:38:41,609 point you know we are revisiting the the 782 00:38:47,100 --> 00:38:45,040 basics and what we know to be true 783 00:38:49,830 --> 00:38:47,110 and trying to lay a foundation for 784 00:38:52,140 --> 00:38:49,840 people who are sort of uninitiated in 785 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:52,150 this field I've been calling this you 786 00:38:58,110 --> 00:38:54,490 know disclosure potty training you know 787 00:39:01,020 --> 00:38:58,120 it wasn't necessarily made for the fader 788 00:39:04,020 --> 00:39:01,030 nots out there or the die-hard you know 789 00:39:05,790 --> 00:39:04,030 fans of dr. Greer or other people it was 790 00:39:08,730 --> 00:39:05,800 more for their their friends or 791 00:39:12,060 --> 00:39:08,740 coworkers their you know their parents 792 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:12,070 their siblings as something you can show 793 00:39:15,450 --> 00:39:14,050 to them and give them you know a good 794 00:39:20,580 --> 00:39:15,460 foundation in this stuff 795 00:39:22,830 --> 00:39:20,590 well yes certainly I do remember after 796 00:39:27,060 --> 00:39:22,840 the premiere and we were at the 797 00:39:27,450 --> 00:39:27,070 after-party and Reid and I were around 798 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:27,460 front 799 00:39:33,140 --> 00:39:29,610 and you and Chris had come up to me and 800 00:39:37,010 --> 00:39:33,150 said okay so Jimmy what do you think and 801 00:39:40,620 --> 00:39:37,020 I was honest and I said well you know uh 802 00:39:43,740 --> 00:39:40,630 it's nothing groundbreaking there was 803 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:43,750 nothing it was done for the rest of the 804 00:39:51,150 --> 00:39:47,290 world it wasn't done for me right it 805 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:51,160 that's not it is for somebody that has 806 00:39:59,310 --> 00:39:55,770 no clue about secret black programs 807 00:40:02,670 --> 00:39:59,320 unacknowledged programs or government 808 00:40:04,980 --> 00:40:02,680 interference or payoffs or you know 809 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:04,990 black track they it's it's for them that 810 00:40:10,710 --> 00:40:07,450 have no idea that this world even exists 811 00:40:15,780 --> 00:40:10,720 at all right and and and they can go to 812 00:40:18,030 --> 00:40:15,790 UFO 101 conspiracy 101 watch this film 813 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:18,040 and come away with the evidence that 814 00:40:22,740 --> 00:40:20,290 they need to go and maybe investigate 815 00:40:24,570 --> 00:40:22,750 further that's who this film is and that 816 00:40:27,210 --> 00:40:24,580 was my honest assessment I didn't know 817 00:40:28,620 --> 00:40:27,220 if I was going to offend you Chris is 818 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:28,630 one of the producers on the film and a 819 00:40:33,900 --> 00:40:31,570 great guy but I that was my honest 820 00:40:37,500 --> 00:40:33,910 assessment and I was glad that you guys 821 00:40:40,410 --> 00:40:37,510 were happy that that it that was my take 822 00:40:43,260 --> 00:40:40,420 and I was like wow I was relieved man 823 00:40:46,380 --> 00:40:43,270 because um you know we made this as a 824 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:46,390 tool for people like you to go out and 825 00:40:51,980 --> 00:40:48,370 have something to show to people it's so 826 00:40:54,900 --> 00:40:51,990 hard to break the ice on this subject 827 00:40:57,420 --> 00:40:54,910 with people who who don't already get it 828 00:40:58,920 --> 00:40:57,430 you know you know you and I are so deep 829 00:41:02,010 --> 00:40:58,930 into this stuff you know we're 830 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:02,020 we're debating the fine nuances right 831 00:41:07,170 --> 00:41:04,210 but you know but most people you say 832 00:41:09,780 --> 00:41:07,180 aliens they give you a look and you know 833 00:41:12,390 --> 00:41:09,790 I think many of us live in this bubble 834 00:41:14,670 --> 00:41:12,400 and and don't even realize it 835 00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:14,680 until you encounter someone outside of 836 00:41:18,329 --> 00:41:16,510 that bubble and then you realize just 837 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:18,339 how far down the rabbit hole you've gone 838 00:41:23,549 --> 00:41:20,890 without even realizing it so this was 839 00:41:26,190 --> 00:41:23,559 this was made for your audience but it 840 00:41:28,829 --> 00:41:26,200 was made as a tool for them to break the 841 00:41:31,559 --> 00:41:28,839 ice with other people and so I was 842 00:41:33,270 --> 00:41:31,569 actually super relieved when you when 843 00:41:35,730 --> 00:41:33,280 that was your take away I was like okay 844 00:41:38,940 --> 00:41:35,740 good because folks going and expecting 845 00:41:40,620 --> 00:41:38,950 this to be something completely new and 846 00:41:43,109 --> 00:41:40,630 and there are a couple things in there 847 00:41:45,329 --> 00:41:43,119 that are pretty explosive that some 848 00:41:48,510 --> 00:41:45,339 folks may not have seen before or at 849 00:41:51,720 --> 00:41:48,520 least may not have seen witnesses admit 850 00:41:53,309 --> 00:41:51,730 to like the like the payoff you know we 851 00:41:55,140 --> 00:41:53,319 have a guy named Richard Doty in there 852 00:41:59,609 --> 00:41:55,150 who talks about dropping off bags of 853 00:42:02,520 --> 00:41:59,619 cash to pay off you know journalists in 854 00:42:05,549 --> 00:42:02,530 the mainstream media and you know that's 855 00:42:07,829 --> 00:42:05,559 something that we all sort of knew was 856 00:42:10,109 --> 00:42:07,839 going on but maybe hadn't heard 857 00:42:12,510 --> 00:42:10,119 described from someone who had who had 858 00:42:16,789 --> 00:42:12,520 been involved in doing it so and he also 859 00:42:19,470 --> 00:42:16,799 confirms in a very roundabout way the 860 00:42:22,559 --> 00:42:19,480 existence of project blue being the 861 00:42:24,390 --> 00:42:22,569 false flag alien of invasion Brenda 862 00:42:27,630 --> 00:42:24,400 right so there are some there are some 863 00:42:29,609 --> 00:42:27,640 you know fun nuggets in there for for 864 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:29,619 the die-hard fans but this was really 865 00:42:35,910 --> 00:42:32,170 more of a tool for for this community to 866 00:42:38,130 --> 00:42:35,920 go out and evangelize with for lack of a 867 00:42:40,140 --> 00:42:38,140 better word I would love to have Dodie 868 00:42:42,329 --> 00:42:40,150 show up at the bunker with a bag of cash 869 00:42:44,670 --> 00:42:42,339 because it wouldn't end the way that you 870 00:42:46,589 --> 00:42:44,680 would think that would be that would be 871 00:42:48,450 --> 00:42:46,599 one ugly scene 872 00:42:53,450 --> 00:42:48,460 well I I'd like to think it you would 873 00:42:59,220 --> 00:42:56,880 okay moving on nice and nice one Michael 874 00:43:06,390 --> 00:42:59,230 but oh man 875 00:43:08,039 --> 00:43:06,400 so anyway NYU NYU my take on NYU great 876 00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:08,049 school what are the best no doubt about 877 00:43:12,810 --> 00:43:12,250 it but pretty stuffy right pretty stuffy 878 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:12,820 a lot of 879 00:43:17,850 --> 00:43:14,650 successful families send their kids 880 00:43:21,090 --> 00:43:17,860 there and and it's it's not a cheap 881 00:43:26,130 --> 00:43:21,100 school to go to right but if I if you 882 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:26,140 are going to be a UFO cat at NYU I would 883 00:43:30,870 --> 00:43:29,170 think that you would be outside of the 884 00:43:34,530 --> 00:43:30,880 circles of what is considered normal 885 00:43:37,950 --> 00:43:34,540 there did you talk to people about UFOs 886 00:43:41,220 --> 00:43:37,960 when you were attending NYU I honestly 887 00:43:43,410 --> 00:43:41,230 no I maybe had two friends at NYU NYU 888 00:43:44,010 --> 00:43:43,420 was probably the worst experience of my 889 00:43:48,780 --> 00:43:44,020 life 890 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:48,790 and I'm so so how so well well the the 891 00:43:53,100 --> 00:43:51,130 stuffiness for one right and I think 892 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:53,110 they're being very generous by using 893 00:44:03,290 --> 00:43:56,650 that term right and you know I honestly 894 00:44:07,980 --> 00:44:03,300 it was uh I was surrounded by extreme 895 00:44:09,420 --> 00:44:07,990 narcissism yes and materialism yes and a 896 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:09,430 sense of entitlement 897 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:11,770 that I had never been exposed to are you 898 00:44:17,010 --> 00:44:14,050 telling that your dad is not a steel 899 00:44:22,140 --> 00:44:17,020 magnate with old school money from 900 00:44:25,980 --> 00:44:22,150 Connecticut I I wish no he was he was a 901 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:25,990 chef and ran a mom-and-pop restaurant 902 00:44:30,180 --> 00:44:28,090 right which I had to which I had to work 903 00:44:34,260 --> 00:44:30,190 at starting at a very young age you know 904 00:44:36,290 --> 00:44:34,270 a total total slave labor but it was it 905 00:44:39,180 --> 00:44:36,300 was a good experience and it taught me 906 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:39,190 you know the value of hard work he throw 907 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:42,130 out a little cliche but it's true and so 908 00:44:51,780 --> 00:44:44,770 I was thrown into this environment of 909 00:44:56,220 --> 00:44:51,790 just extreme entitlement and I did not I 910 00:44:58,500 --> 00:44:56,230 did not adapt very well so yeah Spring 911 00:45:01,800 --> 00:44:58,510 Break I guess I don't encourage anyone 912 00:45:03,810 --> 00:45:01,810 to go there I don't encourage anyone to 913 00:45:06,060 --> 00:45:03,820 go to film school honestly I think film 914 00:45:08,310 --> 00:45:06,070 school in general is a waste of time for 915 00:45:12,270 --> 00:45:08,320 the amount of money that I went into 916 00:45:14,430 --> 00:45:12,280 went into debt to to go to that 4-year 917 00:45:17,310 --> 00:45:14,440 program I could have made six feature 918 00:45:19,350 --> 00:45:17,320 film but instead I've got all that money 919 00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:19,360 to NYU and I graduated with no feature 920 00:45:23,610 --> 00:45:21,250 film and had to start from scratch right 921 00:45:24,460 --> 00:45:23,620 right right right well you do have an 922 00:45:28,780 --> 00:45:24,470 NYU 923 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:28,790 a credential that for that's hard to get 924 00:45:32,170 --> 00:45:30,530 and that you know you get a certain 925 00:45:34,540 --> 00:45:32,180 amount of streak right out of that no I 926 00:45:37,349 --> 00:45:34,550 mean I don't I don't I never picked up 927 00:45:40,390 --> 00:45:37,359 my diploma no one's ever asked me oh 928 00:45:41,830 --> 00:45:40,400 well I actually don't even have it I 929 00:45:44,170 --> 00:45:41,840 don't even have the piece of paper so 930 00:45:46,450 --> 00:45:44,180 tell me the truth man this isn't a UFO 931 00:45:48,310 --> 00:45:46,460 question but did did somebody say 932 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:48,320 something like in the background you 933 00:45:52,660 --> 00:45:50,450 know like Muffy and I are gonna go to 934 00:45:56,109 --> 00:45:52,670 Monte Carlo for spring break you want to 935 00:45:58,570 --> 00:45:56,119 go with us Ivy was it like that oh yes 936 00:46:00,760 --> 00:45:58,580 except except for the part with do you 937 00:46:03,220 --> 00:46:00,770 want to go with us anymore all right 938 00:46:07,420 --> 00:46:03,230 we're going to Monte Carlo where are you 939 00:46:11,589 --> 00:46:07,430 going oh man it would just drive me at 940 00:46:15,670 --> 00:46:11,599 all yeah is brutal man so okay so why 941 00:46:17,470 --> 00:46:15,680 why did you pick up on UFOs though while 942 00:46:22,420 --> 00:46:17,480 you were going to school at NYU what 943 00:46:25,720 --> 00:46:22,430 happened I had I had a friend who whose 944 00:46:27,820 --> 00:46:25,730 dad worked in I had a co-worker friend 945 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:27,830 you know now I know many friends were 946 00:46:32,500 --> 00:46:29,570 actually students but I had I had 947 00:46:35,859 --> 00:46:32,510 various jobs I was in school and one of 948 00:46:40,630 --> 00:46:35,869 my co-workers was his dad had worked in 949 00:46:42,940 --> 00:46:40,640 secret programs and had basically tipped 950 00:46:44,950 --> 00:46:42,950 him off to what was going on with this I 951 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:44,960 and so he he was the one who started to 952 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:47,210 red pill me on this stuff and I 953 00:46:52,150 --> 00:46:48,530 absolutely couldn't believe it so I 954 00:46:55,359 --> 00:46:52,160 started consuming um you know anything I 955 00:47:00,579 --> 00:46:55,369 can find online and it's funny because I 956 00:47:04,349 --> 00:47:00,589 I come from this extreme depth achill 957 00:47:06,339 --> 00:47:04,359 point of view I was raised Catholic and 958 00:47:09,370 --> 00:47:06,349 it kind of messed me up 959 00:47:13,570 --> 00:47:09,380 honestly and so of course I became a 960 00:47:15,310 --> 00:47:13,580 hardcore atheist and and and a 961 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:15,320 professional skeptic you know was a 962 00:47:19,420 --> 00:47:17,210 member of the skeptic Society and they 963 00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:19,430 always say extraordinary claims require 964 00:47:25,390 --> 00:47:22,250 extraordinary evidence and I love to 965 00:47:28,300 --> 00:47:25,400 debate with people on religion on UFOs 966 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:28,310 on a sigh research you know psychic 967 00:47:32,670 --> 00:47:29,930 research and stuff like that brewer 968 00:47:35,109 --> 00:47:32,680 normal and I got a real kick out of 969 00:47:38,109 --> 00:47:35,119 shooting people down I was actually 970 00:47:41,259 --> 00:47:38,119 really unpleasant and I 971 00:47:45,849 --> 00:47:41,269 was also a real smartass and so I I 972 00:47:49,420 --> 00:47:45,859 started I finally started to look at at 973 00:47:52,299 --> 00:47:49,430 the arguments against my position 974 00:47:55,089 --> 00:47:52,309 mostly because I wanted to be able to 975 00:47:58,109 --> 00:47:55,099 defeat any argument I came up again and 976 00:48:01,569 --> 00:47:58,119 the moment I looked at the evidence I 977 00:48:03,970 --> 00:48:01,579 realized that that extraordinary 978 00:48:06,999 --> 00:48:03,980 evidence that skeptics are always you 979 00:48:09,579 --> 00:48:07,009 know complaining about it's all there 980 00:48:11,499 --> 00:48:09,589 and it's been there for decades and all 981 00:48:13,839 --> 00:48:11,509 of my assumptions about reality 982 00:48:17,559 --> 00:48:13,849 completely collapsed and I went back to 983 00:48:20,349 --> 00:48:17,569 my my skeptic friends I said guys look 984 00:48:23,170 --> 00:48:20,359 look at all this look at look at Steven 985 00:48:25,870 --> 00:48:23,180 Greer stuff look at Dean Radin stuff you 986 00:48:27,609 --> 00:48:25,880 know the research he has done at at the 987 00:48:30,099 --> 00:48:27,619 Institute of noetic science royale for 988 00:48:31,809 --> 00:48:30,109 decades well here it is here's the 989 00:48:33,519 --> 00:48:31,819 extraordinary evidence and they just 990 00:48:35,019 --> 00:48:33,529 they wouldn't even look at it they just 991 00:48:37,749 --> 00:48:35,029 dismissed it and that's when I realized 992 00:48:40,150 --> 00:48:37,759 that these so-called skeptics aren't 993 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:40,160 really skeptics but they're they're just 994 00:48:45,670 --> 00:48:42,890 you know professional debunkers debater 995 00:48:49,180 --> 00:48:45,680 jerks yeah yeah you have professional 996 00:48:51,940 --> 00:48:49,190 debaters where they and and I get it 997 00:48:54,700 --> 00:48:51,950 because I'm that way too you are that 998 00:48:56,589 --> 00:48:54,710 way I like that you know what it doesn't 999 00:48:59,049 --> 00:48:56,599 matter to me what a really good 1000 00:49:00,759 --> 00:48:59,059 conversation is but just take the 1001 00:49:03,609 --> 00:49:00,769 opposite side of whatever you're talking 1002 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:03,619 about and enjoy yourself and try to get 1003 00:49:07,479 --> 00:49:04,249 through it 1004 00:49:09,339 --> 00:49:07,489 the art of the argument is fun and I get 1005 00:49:12,309 --> 00:49:09,349 I really do but what I have learned 1006 00:49:15,249 --> 00:49:12,319 about that when it comes to skeptics 1007 00:49:17,319 --> 00:49:15,259 they have nothing to back up with 1008 00:49:20,769 --> 00:49:17,329 anything they just want to use the word 1009 00:49:23,769 --> 00:49:20,779 no right that's their argument a hundred 1010 00:49:28,989 --> 00:49:23,779 percent they're completely driven by by 1011 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:28,999 ego and they don't even realize that 1012 00:49:35,019 --> 00:49:32,210 they are operating off of a huge group 1013 00:49:38,289 --> 00:49:35,029 of unexamined assumptions and they can 1014 00:49:41,019 --> 00:49:38,299 point out the flaws and logic of the 1015 00:49:44,380 --> 00:49:41,029 people they're debating but they they 1016 00:49:46,509 --> 00:49:44,390 have absolutely no self-awareness when 1017 00:49:48,690 --> 00:49:46,519 it comes to making assumptions that 1018 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:48,700 aren't based on any kind of evidence 1019 00:49:53,650 --> 00:49:50,930 logic or 1020 00:49:55,660 --> 00:49:53,660 or introspection or examination it's 1021 00:49:58,690 --> 00:49:55,670 really it was really embarrassing for me 1022 00:50:01,269 --> 00:49:58,700 when I when I woke up I step back and I 1023 00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:01,279 saw what I was doing and I said well I'm 1024 00:50:06,839 --> 00:50:04,730 no better than than the Vatican four 1025 00:50:08,980 --> 00:50:06,849 hundred years ago and Here I am 1026 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:08,990 persecuting people who are sticking 1027 00:50:17,109 --> 00:50:11,450 their necks out talking about this weird 1028 00:50:19,990 --> 00:50:17,119 stuff and and that's when I felt a a 1029 00:50:21,940 --> 00:50:20,000 moral obligation I felt that if I had 1030 00:50:24,819 --> 00:50:21,950 any kind of intellectual integrity 1031 00:50:28,539 --> 00:50:24,829 I would not ignore this I would continue 1032 00:50:30,670 --> 00:50:28,549 to I would continue to investigate and I 1033 00:50:32,470 --> 00:50:30,680 would speak my mind about it and I've 1034 00:50:36,130 --> 00:50:32,480 never cared what anyone thought about 1035 00:50:38,769 --> 00:50:36,140 and and so I've always been pretty 1036 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:38,779 unapologetic and and also pretty 1037 00:50:43,630 --> 00:50:41,210 unpopular as a result but I don't care 1038 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:43,640 because I have a know I've always had a 1039 00:50:49,269 --> 00:50:46,970 small group of friends who who think the 1040 00:50:52,150 --> 00:50:49,279 same way not that I want some kind of 1041 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:52,160 echo chamber but they they don't mind 1042 00:50:56,529 --> 00:50:55,010 being challenged and I think that's a 1043 00:50:58,569 --> 00:50:56,539 really important quality 1044 00:51:02,079 --> 00:50:58,579 and like you said if people would just 1045 00:51:03,789 --> 00:51:02,089 you know look at the arguments against 1046 00:51:06,750 --> 00:51:03,799 their own position we could have a real 1047 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:06,760 dialogue whether it's about UFOs 1048 00:51:13,359 --> 00:51:10,130 consciousness religion or or god help us 1049 00:51:17,980 --> 00:51:13,369 politics well have you ever met Michael 1050 00:51:20,410 --> 00:51:17,990 Shermer uh I have not but I was I was 1051 00:51:24,099 --> 00:51:20,420 such a big fan of his but now I think 1052 00:51:26,380 --> 00:51:24,109 he's just an unbelievable a hypocrite 1053 00:51:29,049 --> 00:51:26,390 yeah I can't I can't figure out if he's 1054 00:51:32,740 --> 00:51:29,059 just the most religious person I've ever 1055 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:32,750 seen his religion being uh material 1056 00:51:37,359 --> 00:51:34,970 reductionism or materialism yes whatever 1057 00:51:40,950 --> 00:51:37,369 word you want to use or if he's just on 1058 00:51:45,039 --> 00:51:40,960 someone's payroll but I know he had a 1059 00:51:47,019 --> 00:51:45,049 really profound mystical experience I 1060 00:51:50,380 --> 00:51:47,029 don't want to mess up the story but I 1061 00:51:53,620 --> 00:51:50,390 believe he was at the at the funeral or 1062 00:51:56,170 --> 00:51:53,630 he'd come back from the funeral of I 1063 00:52:00,039 --> 00:51:56,180 think it was his father-in-law and they 1064 00:52:03,130 --> 00:52:00,049 had this this this music box or this old 1065 00:52:04,410 --> 00:52:03,140 radio that his father-in-law had given 1066 00:52:07,350 --> 00:52:04,420 his wife and 1067 00:52:09,810 --> 00:52:07,360 it turned on and and this thing never 1068 00:52:13,830 --> 00:52:09,820 worked but it turned on and started 1069 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:13,840 playing the dad's favorite song and and 1070 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:16,210 Michael Shermer in that moment just 1071 00:52:19,950 --> 00:52:18,610 started questioning his reality and for 1072 00:52:21,780 --> 00:52:19,960 a moment there it seemed like he was 1073 00:52:23,730 --> 00:52:21,790 going to be open to this stuff but he's 1074 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:23,740 completely back pedaled and done some 1075 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:25,570 mental gymnastics to get out of it yeah 1076 00:52:29,460 --> 00:52:27,610 there was a glimmer of hope there I hope 1077 00:52:31,110 --> 00:52:29,470 I didn't mess up no you know I've heard 1078 00:52:34,140 --> 00:52:31,120 it you know I've heard the story too and 1079 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:34,150 and your your spot-on with that and this 1080 00:52:41,730 --> 00:52:36,490 is my point even with somebody like 1081 00:52:45,180 --> 00:52:41,740 Michael that if he was standing next to 1082 00:52:47,190 --> 00:52:45,190 me and both of us saw something in the 1083 00:52:48,660 --> 00:52:47,200 sky you know like you know whatever you 1084 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:48,670 know contact in the desert or these 1085 00:52:53,940 --> 00:52:50,650 other things that I've seen if he 1086 00:52:57,510 --> 00:52:53,950 witnessed what I witnessed he would 1087 00:53:01,140 --> 00:52:57,520 still be in denial and that's that's the 1088 00:53:03,900 --> 00:53:01,150 truth you know and and he would pull the 1089 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:03,910 skeptical position of well it's it's a 1090 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:06,610 satellite you know quit questioning you 1091 00:53:12,870 --> 00:53:08,770 know no and and then he would choose to 1092 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:12,880 attack me and my personality and and and 1093 00:53:18,630 --> 00:53:16,090 who I am rather than what is going on up 1094 00:53:21,900 --> 00:53:18,640 there in the sky you know and that's and 1095 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:21,910 that's what a skeptic does he yeah what 1096 00:53:27,270 --> 00:53:24,010 do you I mean if Michael was with you 1097 00:53:28,710 --> 00:53:27,280 and and saw something in this guy right 1098 00:53:30,630 --> 00:53:28,720 there and you guys are both members of 1099 00:53:34,170 --> 00:53:30,640 the skeptic Society what is he going to 1100 00:53:36,270 --> 00:53:34,180 say to you he can't say anything he 1101 00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:36,280 can't say anything but you know if we 1102 00:53:40,770 --> 00:53:37,570 were standing there we both saw 1103 00:53:43,740 --> 00:53:40,780 something in the sky I I also would 1104 00:53:47,460 --> 00:53:43,750 maintain a sceptical position I I think 1105 00:53:50,220 --> 00:53:47,470 that you know I think that both sides 1106 00:53:52,410 --> 00:53:50,230 have gone to such an extreme where the 1107 00:53:55,770 --> 00:53:52,420 skeptics aren't really skeptics they're 1108 00:53:57,420 --> 00:53:55,780 just they're cynics right and and a lot 1109 00:54:00,720 --> 00:53:57,430 of the people who are advocates and 1110 00:54:04,230 --> 00:54:00,730 believers they they could use a healthy 1111 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:04,240 dose of skepticism and so I'm like not 1112 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:06,490 to Pat myself on the back because I'm a 1113 00:54:11,550 --> 00:54:09,130 deeply fraud person I make mistakes 1114 00:54:14,700 --> 00:54:11,560 constantly but I would like to think of 1115 00:54:17,240 --> 00:54:14,710 myself as a true skeptic and it takes a 1116 00:54:20,390 --> 00:54:17,250 lot to to convince me 1117 00:54:22,940 --> 00:54:20,400 this is why I like for example in in the 1118 00:54:25,250 --> 00:54:22,950 movie you know we've gotten some you 1119 00:54:26,810 --> 00:54:25,260 know mostly positive feedback with 1120 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:26,820 plenty of negative feedback and one of 1121 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:28,050 the things we hear a lot is well you 1122 00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:30,450 know it's a lot of old UFO footage a lot 1123 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:33,090 of old stuff and you know there's so 1124 00:54:38,510 --> 00:54:35,490 much great new stuff why not put that in 1125 00:54:41,900 --> 00:54:38,520 there and the reason for that is that 1126 00:54:47,630 --> 00:54:41,910 you know new stuff can be can be faked 1127 00:54:50,390 --> 00:54:47,640 and it's really hard to to verify you 1128 00:54:52,940 --> 00:54:50,400 know the the provenance and authenticity 1129 00:54:55,070 --> 00:54:52,950 of this stuff so we just we stuck with 1130 00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:55,080 footage that we thought was good footage 1131 00:55:00,610 --> 00:54:56,970 it was a little it's a little bit older 1132 00:55:03,860 --> 00:55:00,620 it's a little grainy but we can say with 1133 00:55:08,710 --> 00:55:03,870 extreme confidence that it's authentic 1134 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:08,720 and and you know I you know I I 1135 00:55:13,540 --> 00:55:11,370 appreciate that I like that about dr. 1136 00:55:18,380 --> 00:55:13,550 Greer and people don't necessarily 1137 00:55:21,830 --> 00:55:18,390 realize how fastidious he is when it 1138 00:55:25,010 --> 00:55:21,840 comes to the research it was it was a 1139 00:55:26,630 --> 00:55:25,020 very challenging process going through 1140 00:55:28,490 --> 00:55:26,640 the research on this film because he 1141 00:55:32,330 --> 00:55:28,500 wanted to make sure that we did not 1142 00:55:34,550 --> 00:55:32,340 leave ourselves exposed for easy 1143 00:55:37,970 --> 00:55:34,560 criticism by writing in something that 1144 00:55:41,810 --> 00:55:37,980 was obviously debunked we're going to 1145 00:55:45,020 --> 00:55:41,820 head towards a break right here as and 1146 00:55:49,490 --> 00:55:45,030 you can answer this quickly as a young 1147 00:55:51,500 --> 00:55:49,500 man at NYU before he graduated ahead had 1148 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:51,510 you seen anything strange in the sky 1149 00:55:59,480 --> 00:55:55,650 that that you couldn't explain nothing I 1150 00:56:01,310 --> 00:55:59,490 actually never saw a UFO until I until I 1151 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:01,320 met dr. Greer and started making the 1152 00:56:05,570 --> 00:56:04,170 film I've never seen a ghost 1153 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:05,580 I've never had an out-of-body experience 1154 00:56:13,610 --> 00:56:08,850 I've never had any kind of supernatural 1155 00:56:15,830 --> 00:56:13,620 encounter of any kind I am I've arrived 1156 00:56:20,570 --> 00:56:15,840 at this position purely to following the 1157 00:56:24,310 --> 00:56:20,580 evidence and through logic and again 1158 00:56:27,500 --> 00:56:24,320 just trying to be a open-minded skeptic 1159 00:56:30,470 --> 00:56:27,510 and being willing to follow the evidence 1160 00:56:31,259 --> 00:56:30,480 now what about your parents we've got 60 1161 00:56:32,759 --> 00:56:31,269 seconds what about 1162 00:56:38,549 --> 00:56:32,769 your parents they know what you're doing 1163 00:56:40,620 --> 00:56:38,559 now are they are they part of our 1164 00:56:41,249 --> 00:56:40,630 community or do they think you're 1165 00:56:43,829 --> 00:56:41,259 tripping 1166 00:56:46,019 --> 00:56:43,839 oh they are now they thought I was 1167 00:56:47,939 --> 00:56:46,029 tripping at first they thought it was 1168 00:56:49,649 --> 00:56:47,949 really funny but they were very 1169 00:56:51,799 --> 00:56:49,659 supportive they've always been extremely 1170 00:56:54,479 --> 00:56:51,809 supportive of anything I do but now 1171 00:56:55,799 --> 00:56:54,489 their their minds have been blown and 1172 00:56:58,679 --> 00:56:55,809 you should have seen the look on my 1173 00:57:02,609 --> 00:56:58,689 mom's face when I screened the film for 1174 00:57:04,439 --> 00:57:02,619 her for the first time and you can see 1175 00:57:06,959 --> 00:57:04,449 that I just I just rocked her world 1176 00:57:10,349 --> 00:57:06,969 which made me very happy well that's the 1177 00:57:13,289 --> 00:57:10,359 film did its job then right the film did 1178 00:57:14,909 --> 00:57:13,299 exactly what it was supposed to do all 1179 00:57:17,219 --> 00:57:14,919 right let's take a break right here our 1180 00:57:19,499 --> 00:57:17,229 guest tonight Michael Missoula yes he is 1181 00:57:22,919 --> 00:57:19,509 filmmaker director directed and 1182 00:57:24,419 --> 00:57:22,929 unacknowledged we're going to dive into 1183 00:57:26,839 --> 00:57:24,429 the film and some other stuff right 1184 00:57:30,539 --> 00:57:26,849 after the break but I do want to know 1185 00:57:32,489 --> 00:57:30,549 what what decisions were made about what 1186 00:57:34,259 --> 00:57:32,499 and what did not make it into the film 1187 00:57:35,850 --> 00:57:34,269 because he had thousands of hours of 1188 00:57:40,790 --> 00:57:35,860 footage we'll be right back 1189 00:57:42,790 --> 00:57:40,800 [Music] 1190 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:42,800 [Applause] 1191 00:57:52,710 --> 00:57:50,580 this is fade to black 1192 00:57:56,370 --> 00:57:52,720 with Jimmy Church on the game changer 1193 00:58:00,810 --> 00:57:56,380 radio network and kgr a the global radio 1194 00:58:03,720 --> 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directed 1265 01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:28,849 unacknowledged we're going to talk about 1266 01:01:32,650 --> 01:01:30,890 that in just a second dis portion of the 1267 01:01:35,529 --> 01:01:32,660 show is brought to you by River moon 1268 01:01:38,079 --> 01:01:35,539 coffee makers of the fade to black 1269 01:01:39,849 --> 01:01:38,089 blended star complex and smokey just go 1270 01:01:42,009 --> 01:01:39,859 to the river moon coffee banner over at 1271 01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:42,019 Jimmy George radio calm use the promo 1272 01:01:49,269 --> 01:01:46,010 code F to be blend and you will get 15% 1273 01:01:51,759 --> 01:01:49,279 off of your order alright Michael one of 1274 01:01:57,039 --> 01:01:51,769 the things that I thought was going to 1275 01:02:00,910 --> 01:01:57,049 be in the film but wasn't it was some 1276 01:02:03,309 --> 01:02:00,920 footage of dr. GRU ce-5 stuff which I've 1277 01:02:05,049 --> 01:02:03,319 seen a lot of it I've seen some 1278 01:02:07,450 --> 01:02:05,059 exclusive stuff and it's pretty amazing 1279 01:02:10,839 --> 01:02:07,460 I've had my own sightings like that 1280 01:02:14,799 --> 01:02:10,849 night vision and so forth but you made a 1281 01:02:19,450 --> 01:02:14,809 decision not to do that why well it 1282 01:02:20,769 --> 01:02:19,460 actually wasn't my decision it was it 1283 01:02:25,599 --> 01:02:20,779 was dr. Greene's decision from the very 1284 01:02:27,999 --> 01:02:25,609 beginning and the reason was that we you 1285 01:02:32,620 --> 01:02:28,009 know how if we're talking about people 1286 01:02:37,269 --> 01:02:32,630 who are totally new to this subject and 1287 01:02:38,769 --> 01:02:37,279 and are quite skeptical leading with you 1288 01:02:41,950 --> 01:02:38,779 know we're going to sit down and 1289 01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:41,960 meditate and make contact it's a it's a 1290 01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:46,130 hard pill to swallow so and honestly you 1291 01:02:52,749 --> 01:02:49,250 know I I loved serious I thought it was 1292 01:02:55,029 --> 01:02:52,759 beautiful I thought it was brilliant it 1293 01:02:57,759 --> 01:02:55,039 was so well put together and the 1294 01:03:00,009 --> 01:02:57,769 production value was incredible it was a 1295 01:03:03,490 --> 01:03:00,019 tremendous film I had contributed to it 1296 01:03:08,289 --> 01:03:03,500 I was at the premiere but if I had a 1297 01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:08,299 criticism of it it was that not twenty 1298 01:03:14,849 --> 01:03:10,970 minutes into the film or discussing ce-5 1299 01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:14,859 and I felt that it was going to alienate 1300 01:03:20,349 --> 01:03:17,450 not a no pun intended 1301 01:03:22,660 --> 01:03:20,359 folks who were new to the subject and 1302 01:03:24,009 --> 01:03:22,670 when I when I took serious and I was 1303 01:03:26,710 --> 01:03:24,019 showing it to my friends and I was 1304 01:03:29,769 --> 01:03:26,720 trying to wake them up to the to the 1305 01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:29,779 subject matter that's where they tuned 1306 01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:32,090 out it was it was too much for them 1307 01:03:39,910 --> 01:03:35,930 and so when I first connected with with 1308 01:03:42,580 --> 01:03:39,920 dr. Greer I was delighted to hear that 1309 01:03:45,610 --> 01:03:42,590 his vision for this film was as he would 1310 01:03:49,270 --> 01:03:45,620 put it just a nuts-and-bolts just the 1311 01:03:52,060 --> 01:03:49,280 you know the witnesses the the documents 1312 01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:52,070 the the photos and videos and only 1313 01:03:57,790 --> 01:03:55,130 witnesses with strong credentials you 1314 01:03:59,850 --> 01:03:57,800 know there's no shortage of average 1315 01:04:03,100 --> 01:03:59,860 people who have had absolutely 1316 01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:03,110 incredible experiences but we really 1317 01:04:08,950 --> 01:04:05,570 wanted to limit it in this film to 1318 01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:08,960 people with with those credentials and 1319 01:04:15,850 --> 01:04:10,690 and that's because you know most people 1320 01:04:17,770 --> 01:04:15,860 will defer to Authority when it comes to 1321 01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:17,780 deciding if something is real or not we 1322 01:04:22,270 --> 01:04:19,610 really wanted to push the the 1323 01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:22,280 credentials and we also didn't want to 1324 01:04:27,340 --> 01:04:25,370 scare people off by introducing a 1325 01:04:30,250 --> 01:04:27,350 conversation about the nature of 1326 01:04:34,060 --> 01:04:30,260 consciousness which you know can be its 1327 01:04:36,820 --> 01:04:34,070 own film and I I can't say too much but 1328 01:04:39,220 --> 01:04:36,830 it may be its own film it's all that all 1329 01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:39,230 set well which would make a lot of sense 1330 01:04:42,940 --> 01:04:41,090 because he's got a ton of footage but 1331 01:04:45,910 --> 01:04:42,950 the other side of it for me when you're 1332 01:04:49,630 --> 01:04:45,920 talking about you know Providence and 1333 01:04:51,940 --> 01:04:49,640 the the ability to fake stuff today well 1334 01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:51,950 if it's his own footage then you can 1335 01:04:56,740 --> 01:04:54,530 stand by the footage is not being faked 1336 01:04:59,290 --> 01:04:56,750 and some of it is pretty amazing stuff 1337 01:05:00,940 --> 01:04:59,300 that I think the world should should see 1338 01:05:03,060 --> 01:05:00,950 they don't know that this stuff is going 1339 01:05:05,430 --> 01:05:03,070 out on the skies every single night 1340 01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:05,440 right well actually the truth is that 1341 01:05:14,860 --> 01:05:09,370 many of the clips in unacknowledged are 1342 01:05:17,730 --> 01:05:14,870 ce-5 clips its footage these are 1343 01:05:21,340 --> 01:05:17,740 photographs or video that was taken on 1344 01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:21,350 during these ce-5 expeditions where they 1345 01:05:26,590 --> 01:05:23,090 went out they did the contact protocols 1346 01:05:30,250 --> 01:05:26,600 and these these beings showed up but we 1347 01:05:32,020 --> 01:05:30,260 did not provide that that context for 1348 01:05:34,930 --> 01:05:32,030 this film because again we're targeting 1349 01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:34,940 the average guy on the street and and 1350 01:05:40,110 --> 01:05:36,770 there is a learning curve with this 1351 01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:40,120 stuff so we you know I actually 1352 01:05:44,230 --> 01:05:42,890 completely supported dr. Gertz decision 1353 01:05:46,990 --> 01:05:44,240 to 1354 01:05:48,730 --> 01:05:47,000 exclude a conversation about the science 1355 01:05:52,420 --> 01:05:48,740 of consciousness because you really 1356 01:05:55,660 --> 01:05:52,430 can't get into ce-5 without getting into 1357 01:05:58,150 --> 01:05:55,670 a very complex discussion about the 1358 01:06:02,080 --> 01:05:58,160 nature of our minds and and how and how 1359 01:06:04,540 --> 01:06:02,090 we are all deeply interconnected on a 1360 01:06:06,190 --> 01:06:04,550 quantum level with everything around us 1361 01:06:07,750 --> 01:06:06,200 and not not just on our planet but 1362 01:06:10,570 --> 01:06:07,760 throughout the universe and and other 1363 01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:10,580 beings throughout the universe and you 1364 01:06:15,010 --> 01:06:12,530 know again it's it's disclosure 1365 01:06:18,010 --> 01:06:15,020 potty-training it's one step at a time 1366 01:06:22,510 --> 01:06:18,020 so we were very much in alignment on 1367 01:06:26,830 --> 01:06:22,520 that how do you think the having the 1368 01:06:30,370 --> 01:06:26,840 support of you know the orchard and and 1369 01:06:33,010 --> 01:06:30,380 Sony you know the major esteem ager 1370 01:06:35,770 --> 01:06:33,020 right Hollywood film companies and 1371 01:06:38,380 --> 01:06:35,780 production companies here in Los Angeles 1372 01:06:42,220 --> 01:06:38,390 in the world behind a project like this 1373 01:06:45,010 --> 01:06:42,230 does it allow you to get a little bit 1374 01:06:46,630 --> 01:06:45,020 cocky in the way that you are speaking 1375 01:06:48,670 --> 01:06:46,640 about these subjects because you know 1376 01:06:50,590 --> 01:06:48,680 you're you're propped up and supported 1377 01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:50,600 through that media machine 1378 01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:55,130 ah well I don't I don't know about I 1379 01:07:00,130 --> 01:06:57,290 don't know about cocky but it's 1380 01:07:03,370 --> 01:07:00,140 definitely incredibly I think it's 1381 01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:03,380 actually incredibly humbling to have the 1382 01:07:10,270 --> 01:07:06,130 not to throw out a platitude but I'm 1383 01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:10,280 really just pinching myself that they 1384 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:12,890 got behind this film there's a wonderful 1385 01:07:17,890 --> 01:07:15,290 guy at the orchard whose were all 1386 01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:17,900 wonderful but one in particular Jim 1387 01:07:23,110 --> 01:07:19,730 Martin who's an executive over there 1388 01:07:25,690 --> 01:07:23,120 who's been doing his own contact events 1389 01:07:29,530 --> 01:07:25,700 and and recording UFO footage on his own 1390 01:07:31,990 --> 01:07:29,540 for a long time and was a fan of dr. 1391 01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:32,000 Greer's and and they they reached out to 1392 01:07:39,610 --> 01:07:35,290 us based on the success of Sirius and 1393 01:07:41,620 --> 01:07:39,620 wanted to wanted to do this film and the 1394 01:07:46,110 --> 01:07:41,630 resources they've brought to the table I 1395 01:07:50,350 --> 01:07:46,120 mean I just has to be you know the most 1396 01:07:52,210 --> 01:07:50,360 successful UFO film of all time in terms 1397 01:07:54,940 --> 01:07:52,220 of just be the eyeballs that it's 1398 01:07:58,120 --> 01:07:54,950 reached right and and you know and dr. 1399 01:07:59,859 --> 01:07:58,130 Greg hinted at this I can't divulge it 1400 01:08:01,599 --> 01:07:59,869 fortunately because we're under 1401 01:08:04,809 --> 01:08:01,609 non-disclosure but there is something 1402 01:08:07,329 --> 01:08:04,819 that it's going to happen later this 1403 01:08:09,339 --> 01:08:07,339 summer that's going to make sure that 1404 01:08:12,549 --> 01:08:09,349 this film reaches tens of millions of 1405 01:08:14,980 --> 01:08:12,559 people and and it's all thanks to the 1406 01:08:18,249 --> 01:08:14,990 guys at the orchard so we were we were 1407 01:08:20,019 --> 01:08:18,259 really lucky that the guys there were 1408 01:08:21,849 --> 01:08:20,029 we're into this stuff because otherwise 1409 01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:21,859 this never would have happened and 1410 01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:23,449 honestly we were we were really nervous 1411 01:08:28,059 --> 01:08:25,489 when they can to us because we thought 1412 01:08:31,689 --> 01:08:28,069 wow you know Sony you know big scary 1413 01:08:33,550 --> 01:08:31,699 company and we know how all of the we 1414 01:08:35,709 --> 01:08:33,560 talked about in the film you know how 1415 01:08:37,769 --> 01:08:35,719 the major media companies are so 1416 01:08:41,039 --> 01:08:37,779 infiltrated so we were actually very 1417 01:08:44,470 --> 01:08:41,049 very cautious and it took a long time to 1418 01:08:46,629 --> 01:08:44,480 to get comfortable but it's been an 1419 01:08:48,550 --> 01:08:46,639 absolutely incredible experience and I 1420 01:08:51,490 --> 01:08:48,560 absolutely love these guys and they're 1421 01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:51,500 absolutely killing it right now with 1422 01:08:55,660 --> 01:08:53,690 with getting the film out there how 1423 01:08:59,919 --> 01:08:55,670 about you it's been great how about you 1424 01:09:04,030 --> 01:08:59,929 have you gone on a ce-5 get together 1425 01:09:06,910 --> 01:09:04,040 with dr. Greer so I've only done it I 1426 01:09:10,539 --> 01:09:06,920 did it contact in the desert which was a 1427 01:09:12,879 --> 01:09:10,549 large group and we we did see a couple 1428 01:09:15,570 --> 01:09:12,889 things and it was very very cool but 1429 01:09:18,610 --> 01:09:15,580 I've also had the unique privilege of 1430 01:09:20,769 --> 01:09:18,620 sitting in sitting with him just the two 1431 01:09:25,019 --> 01:09:20,779 of us in his backyard in Virginia he's 1432 01:09:27,910 --> 01:09:25,029 got this gorgeous farm in Virginia and 1433 01:09:31,019 --> 01:09:27,920 looking through his binoculars and and 1434 01:09:34,510 --> 01:09:31,029 talking about the universe and it's a 1435 01:09:36,249 --> 01:09:34,520 you know it's I got to see a side of 1436 01:09:39,070 --> 01:09:36,259 Steve that a lot of people don't don't 1437 01:09:42,099 --> 01:09:39,080 get to see looking up at the stars with 1438 01:09:46,629 --> 01:09:42,109 this this sense of the sense of awe and 1439 01:09:49,599 --> 01:09:46,639 wonder it's really beautiful and so I 1440 01:09:52,809 --> 01:09:49,609 did that with him well you see what did 1441 01:09:55,740 --> 01:09:52,819 you see anything in Virginia I did I did 1442 01:10:01,780 --> 01:09:55,750 not have to do binoculars what happened 1443 01:10:04,570 --> 01:10:01,790 I saw this this giant disc zoom across 1444 01:10:08,260 --> 01:10:04,580 the sky and then make a 90-degree turn 1445 01:10:10,090 --> 01:10:08,270 and then disappear and it was it was the 1446 01:10:11,739 --> 01:10:10,100 first UFO I've ever seen it was 1447 01:10:15,790 --> 01:10:11,749 absolutely incredible 1448 01:10:20,919 --> 01:10:15,800 so wait wait wait wait wait slow down 1449 01:10:23,919 --> 01:10:20,929 there Michael okay I want to know what 1450 01:10:25,989 --> 01:10:23,929 did the disk what do you say disk you 1451 01:10:28,450 --> 01:10:25,999 saw something that looked like a disk as 1452 01:10:30,489 --> 01:10:28,460 opposed to a ball of light or or 1453 01:10:33,759 --> 01:10:30,499 something like I've seen you're saying 1454 01:10:37,259 --> 01:10:33,769 that you saw a disk what did you see 1455 01:10:41,830 --> 01:10:37,269 this was a disk this was a classic 1456 01:10:44,290 --> 01:10:41,840 metallic Flying Saucer Shonen oh yeah 1457 01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:44,300 and I think I think I was looking at I 1458 01:10:48,399 --> 01:10:46,489 was looking in the direction of Venus at 1459 01:10:51,250 --> 01:10:48,409 the time I was trying to find Venus and 1460 01:10:54,089 --> 01:10:51,260 all of a sudden I saw this this giant 1461 01:10:57,669 --> 01:10:54,099 disc and I tracked it across the sky and 1462 01:11:01,149 --> 01:10:57,679 and I was sort of I was just in shock I 1463 01:11:03,879 --> 01:11:01,159 didn't quite process what it was until 1464 01:11:07,060 --> 01:11:03,889 it made a very sharp turn and then it 1465 01:11:10,060 --> 01:11:07,070 disappeared in a snap and I and I looked 1466 01:11:13,029 --> 01:11:10,070 at dr. Greer and he just laughed and and 1467 01:11:15,969 --> 01:11:13,039 that was it we we didn't even discuss it 1468 01:11:21,549 --> 01:11:15,979 it was just a really wonderful magical 1469 01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:21,559 experience and okay wait wait wait I'm 1470 01:11:26,950 --> 01:11:23,530 not gonna let you get away that easy 1471 01:11:29,319 --> 01:11:26,960 that's a pretty life-changing experience 1472 01:11:31,770 --> 01:11:29,329 man that that's that's the classical 1473 01:11:35,049 --> 01:11:31,780 definition of Epiphany at that point 1474 01:11:36,969 --> 01:11:35,059 right I mean well you would think so but 1475 01:11:42,609 --> 01:11:36,979 of course you know two minutes later 1476 01:11:46,689 --> 01:11:42,619 cognitive dissonance kicks in and and it 1477 01:11:48,549 --> 01:11:46,699 tends to lose its impact but but no it 1478 01:11:50,529 --> 01:11:48,559 was it was definitely the confirmation 1479 01:11:53,469 --> 01:11:50,539 that I that I was looking for because 1480 01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:53,479 like I said I've been I'm here because 1481 01:11:59,049 --> 01:11:55,130 I've been following the clues and 1482 01:12:02,290 --> 01:11:59,059 approaching this from you know examining 1483 01:12:05,290 --> 01:12:02,300 the evidence and using logic and it's 1484 01:12:06,609 --> 01:12:05,300 not actually been disappointed and I and 1485 01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:06,619 my friends are probably sick of hearing 1486 01:12:13,450 --> 01:12:10,489 me complain that you know I I don't I 1487 01:12:14,739 --> 01:12:13,460 don't speak to ETS or to orbs 1488 01:12:19,149 --> 01:12:14,749 right I don't have out-of-body 1489 01:12:21,989 --> 01:12:19,159 experiences I you know i've i I'm not I 1490 01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:21,999 don't consider myself a contact II and 1491 01:12:28,660 --> 01:12:25,570 but everyone around they pretty much 1492 01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:28,670 fall into that category well let me let 1493 01:12:33,190 --> 01:12:31,090 me be Michael Shermer for a second okay 1494 01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:33,200 well go for it now I'm going to be 1495 01:12:47,590 --> 01:12:37,370 Michael Shermer what you saw Michael was 1496 01:12:50,620 --> 01:12:47,600 a satellite satellite okay a satellite 1497 01:12:53,050 --> 01:12:50,630 that's that makes a 90-degree turn 1498 01:12:55,570 --> 01:12:53,060 okay that's what is the thing I would 1499 01:12:59,610 --> 01:12:55,580 never I wouldn't even try to argue with 1500 01:13:04,690 --> 01:12:59,620 Michael Shermer because um you know the 1501 01:13:07,420 --> 01:13:04,700 the classic sort of classic out for 1502 01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:07,430 skeptics is that you know witness 1503 01:13:13,660 --> 01:13:11,930 testimony isn't worth anything so which 1504 01:13:15,820 --> 01:13:13,670 I completely disagree with you know 1505 01:13:19,570 --> 01:13:15,830 we've we've sent people to the electric 1506 01:13:21,970 --> 01:13:19,580 chair based on witness testimony and you 1507 01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:21,980 know which perhaps we should do but when 1508 01:13:28,210 --> 01:13:25,370 you have you know hundreds of people who 1509 01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:28,220 are intelligent and with incredible 1510 01:13:33,970 --> 01:13:31,850 credentials like Edgar Mitchell and Buzz 1511 01:13:37,450 --> 01:13:33,980 Aldrin you know you know men who have 1512 01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:37,460 been in space and and just dozens and 1513 01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:39,770 dozens of high-ranking military 1514 01:13:47,860 --> 01:13:43,130 personnel who have absolutely nothing to 1515 01:13:50,530 --> 01:13:47,870 gain by by by sharing their experiences 1516 01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:50,540 who get nothing but but ridicule and 1517 01:13:55,480 --> 01:13:53,690 threats against their life and and by 1518 01:13:58,420 --> 01:13:55,490 the way people these are people who we 1519 01:14:00,340 --> 01:13:58,430 have trusted to you know to handle 1520 01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:00,350 nuclear weapons you know they're 1521 01:14:04,090 --> 01:14:01,970 perfectly competent when it comes to 1522 01:14:06,460 --> 01:14:04,100 that but the moment they open their 1523 01:14:09,970 --> 01:14:06,470 mouth about a UFO well they're insane or 1524 01:14:11,410 --> 01:14:09,980 they're lying so you know I wouldn't if 1525 01:14:13,990 --> 01:14:11,420 I was standing next to Michael Shermer 1526 01:14:17,290 --> 01:14:14,000 and and you know he was shooting down my 1527 01:14:19,620 --> 01:14:17,300 my experience I would I would let him do 1528 01:14:23,230 --> 01:14:19,630 it it's not an argument you can win 1529 01:14:24,940 --> 01:14:23,240 there's no amount of data that you can 1530 01:14:27,130 --> 01:14:24,950 put in front of these people 1531 01:14:29,500 --> 01:14:27,140 right that that's going to convince them 1532 01:14:31,270 --> 01:14:29,510 it has nothing to do with the evidence 1533 01:14:34,030 --> 01:14:31,280 they say that it's about the evidence 1534 01:14:37,630 --> 01:14:34,040 but they're they're completely full of 1535 01:14:38,580 --> 01:14:37,640 crap when they say that and and you you 1536 01:14:42,260 --> 01:14:38,590 can 1537 01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:42,270 absolutely an embarrassment of riches 1538 01:14:47,370 --> 01:14:44,650 when it when it comes to the evidence 1539 01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:47,380 and these guys are dismissing it without 1540 01:14:51,750 --> 01:14:49,449 examination or they'll poke a hole and a 1541 01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:51,760 couple things and then throw everything 1542 01:14:56,189 --> 01:14:54,730 out based on you know undermining a 1543 01:14:58,800 --> 01:14:56,199 couple pieces of evidence and it's 1544 01:15:02,189 --> 01:14:58,810 because they have absolutely no interest 1545 01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:02,199 in being persuaded they are married to 1546 01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:05,050 their assumptions about reality and they 1547 01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:07,449 don't want this to be true 1548 01:15:12,780 --> 01:15:10,530 and that this is a key a key 1549 01:15:14,729 --> 01:15:12,790 psychological insight that I think too 1550 01:15:17,189 --> 01:15:14,739 many people forget whether you're 1551 01:15:19,500 --> 01:15:17,199 talking about UFO you know the et 1552 01:15:23,660 --> 01:15:19,510 cover-up or talking about psychic 1553 01:15:27,540 --> 01:15:23,670 research or you know or spirituality 1554 01:15:30,089 --> 01:15:27,550 these cynics they're they're not sitting 1555 01:15:32,310 --> 01:15:30,099 there and saying well I wish this was 1556 01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:32,320 true I just haven't seen the evidence 1557 01:15:38,129 --> 01:15:34,690 right I haven't been persuaded yet right 1558 01:15:40,740 --> 01:15:38,139 they desperately do not want this to be 1559 01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:40,750 true it's the one thing it's the one 1560 01:15:44,399 --> 01:15:42,250 thing Michael when I hear these 1561 01:15:48,060 --> 01:15:44,409 arguments and debates go on and they did 1562 01:15:51,030 --> 01:15:48,070 they happen often enough it just gets my 1563 01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:51,040 blood boiling because it's such a simple 1564 01:15:57,540 --> 01:15:54,010 thing to do and you know and most honest 1565 01:15:59,580 --> 01:15:57,550 scientists out there or researchers will 1566 01:16:02,820 --> 01:15:59,590 always back up and go well you know what 1567 01:16:05,370 --> 01:16:02,830 maybe okay you know I'll check it out 1568 01:16:06,990 --> 01:16:05,380 let's look at the evidence and because I 1569 01:16:08,939 --> 01:16:07,000 don't I'm not buying into it at this 1570 01:16:11,490 --> 01:16:08,949 point you know what I mean it's a whole 1571 01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:11,500 different frame of mind where the cynics 1572 01:16:16,500 --> 01:16:14,170 and the skeptics will not go there and 1573 01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:16,510 it just makes my blood boil and you know 1574 01:16:21,060 --> 01:16:18,250 what and maybe down on their very core 1575 01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:21,070 in there very belief in their heart they 1576 01:16:27,390 --> 01:16:25,210 do want to believe right well some of 1577 01:16:30,209 --> 01:16:27,400 them yes but you know it's a lot of 1578 01:16:32,939 --> 01:16:30,219 things going on here at once number 1579 01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:32,949 number one you know a lot of these guys 1580 01:16:38,310 --> 01:16:35,170 have built their careers whether they 1581 01:16:40,740 --> 01:16:38,320 are you know advocates for skepticism 1582 01:16:43,620 --> 01:16:40,750 like Michael Shermer or if they are 1583 01:16:46,919 --> 01:16:43,630 scientists or engineers who are 1584 01:16:51,359 --> 01:16:46,929 operating in a certain paradigm if they 1585 01:16:52,530 --> 01:16:51,369 were to go there and really permit this 1586 01:16:54,300 --> 01:16:52,540 to be real and 1587 01:16:58,350 --> 01:16:54,310 look it's and truly you know see the 1588 01:16:59,640 --> 01:16:58,360 data you know then that that means that 1589 01:17:01,530 --> 01:16:59,650 they would have to accept that 1590 01:17:04,620 --> 01:17:01,540 everything they premise their their 1591 01:17:06,930 --> 01:17:04,630 careers upon has been a lie right and so 1592 01:17:10,230 --> 01:17:06,940 you've got that you've got a lot of ego 1593 01:17:13,100 --> 01:17:10,240 involved for that reason you've also got 1594 01:17:15,660 --> 01:17:13,110 a tremendous amount of corruption and 1595 01:17:19,260 --> 01:17:15,670 you know and then you can bring in 1596 01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:19,270 ridicule as well and you know Steve 1597 01:17:23,130 --> 01:17:20,650 makes the point I think he's absolutely 1598 01:17:27,990 --> 01:17:23,140 right that even more than the the threat 1599 01:17:31,140 --> 01:17:28,000 of assassination just ridicule has been 1600 01:17:35,070 --> 01:17:31,150 you know incredibly effective at keeping 1601 01:17:41,340 --> 01:17:35,080 people quiet and you know there are you 1602 01:17:43,370 --> 01:17:41,350 know it's it's this incredible culture 1603 01:17:45,810 --> 01:17:43,380 that's but it's been built around this 1604 01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:45,820 Steve tells the story I don't mean to 1605 01:17:51,450 --> 01:17:48,370 pare it so much from him but he he's 1606 01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:51,460 taught me so much and I've got to hear 1607 01:17:57,450 --> 01:17:54,610 his stories so many times I I've gotten 1608 01:18:00,660 --> 01:17:57,460 good at telling them you know his uh his 1609 01:18:02,700 --> 01:18:00,670 sister-in-law is the editor or was the 1610 01:18:05,700 --> 01:18:02,710 editor of the Boston Globe and she said 1611 01:18:07,590 --> 01:18:05,710 you can put a dead alien on my desk and 1612 01:18:09,900 --> 01:18:07,600 we would not report it this is the 1613 01:18:11,700 --> 01:18:09,910 Boston Globe we reach it paper right 1614 01:18:15,390 --> 01:18:11,710 right so you know the cognitive 1615 01:18:18,180 --> 01:18:15,400 dissonance runs deep but it has nothing 1616 01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:18,190 in my personal opinion it has nothing to 1617 01:18:24,810 --> 01:18:21,090 do with a lack of convincing evidence 1618 01:18:28,110 --> 01:18:24,820 the evidence is there there's many kinds 1619 01:18:30,510 --> 01:18:28,120 of evidence from you know high-ranking 1620 01:18:32,790 --> 01:18:30,520 witness testimony documents you know I 1621 01:18:36,300 --> 01:18:32,800 tell people I tell these cynics I said 1622 01:18:39,570 --> 01:18:36,310 go on the FBI and CIA websites they have 1623 01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:39,580 quietly disclosed tens of thousands of 1624 01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:42,330 documents that are on their websites 1625 01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:46,210 describing the et presence it's already 1626 01:18:50,550 --> 01:18:48,130 been admitted to but there's been no 1627 01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:50,560 press coverage Jimmy do you think that 1628 01:18:55,500 --> 01:18:53,290 anybody has taken my suggestion and gone 1629 01:18:58,140 --> 01:18:55,510 on the FBI or CIA websites they just 1630 01:19:00,060 --> 01:18:58,150 roll their eyes right you know so it's 1631 01:19:05,649 --> 01:19:00,070 it's not a battle that we're going to 1632 01:19:08,290 --> 01:19:05,659 win with evidence we have to start 1633 01:19:11,649 --> 01:19:08,300 be confident about talking about this 1634 01:19:13,989 --> 01:19:11,659 and maybe even adopt an air of not 1635 01:19:16,959 --> 01:19:13,999 arrogance but the cockiness like you 1636 01:19:18,399 --> 01:19:16,969 said right and so really you don't you 1637 01:19:20,469 --> 01:19:18,409 don't believe in aliens you know where 1638 01:19:23,379 --> 01:19:20,479 have you been and that's kind of where 1639 01:19:26,199 --> 01:19:23,389 I'm at now i I've become a little bit 1640 01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:26,209 dismissive of people who don't believe 1641 01:19:32,140 --> 01:19:29,570 not because I'm arrogant it's actually 1642 01:19:34,929 --> 01:19:32,150 hard for me to do it but because I think 1643 01:19:37,390 --> 01:19:34,939 that that's where this culture needs to 1644 01:19:40,359 --> 01:19:37,400 go we need to stop being so defensive 1645 01:19:42,879 --> 01:19:40,369 and apologetic and saying well you know 1646 01:19:45,819 --> 01:19:42,889 there's this document you can look at 1647 01:19:50,409 --> 01:19:45,829 and you know Edgar Mitchell said it 1648 01:19:53,919 --> 01:19:50,419 hasn't worked right not working right 1649 01:19:56,859 --> 01:19:53,929 right I think that we just have to take 1650 01:19:59,560 --> 01:19:56,869 control of the culture and start making 1651 01:20:02,109 --> 01:19:59,570 people feel stupid for not getting on 1652 01:20:04,569 --> 01:20:02,119 the bandwagon maybe I'm wrong I'm 1653 01:20:07,179 --> 01:20:04,579 throwing this out there as a suggestion 1654 01:20:09,819 --> 01:20:07,189 and honestly I guess it's hard for me to 1655 01:20:13,169 --> 01:20:09,829 adopt this air of dismisses emit 1656 01:20:15,129 --> 01:20:13,179 dismissive nests with people but ah I 1657 01:20:17,529 --> 01:20:15,139 feel like we got to try something new 1658 01:20:20,919 --> 01:20:17,539 what do you think but yeah my cake is 1659 01:20:24,549 --> 01:20:20,929 exactly that I mean I I made up my mind 1660 01:20:27,969 --> 01:20:24,559 a while ago that I just don't care I 1661 01:20:30,549 --> 01:20:27,979 really don't care about the critics I 1662 01:20:32,379 --> 01:20:30,559 don't care about negativity I don't care 1663 01:20:35,069 --> 01:20:32,389 about skeptics I don't care about the 1664 01:20:39,969 --> 01:20:35,079 bunkers it's not going to change my mind 1665 01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:39,979 it's not so I have taken that that that 1666 01:20:45,819 --> 01:20:42,650 tack I could go right I could go left I 1667 01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:45,829 chose to tack left and I am just going 1668 01:20:52,540 --> 01:20:50,090 to believe in what I have seen and what 1669 01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:52,550 I've experienced and therefore I know 1670 01:20:58,989 --> 01:20:55,610 that the world is not what it seems to 1671 01:21:01,659 --> 01:20:58,999 be as presented to us by those that are 1672 01:21:05,229 --> 01:21:01,669 think that they are in control and that 1673 01:21:07,899 --> 01:21:05,239 is my overall perspective you know and 1674 01:21:11,589 --> 01:21:07,909 and knowing that and believing that 1675 01:21:13,989 --> 01:21:11,599 Michael it has relieved me of the 1676 01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:13,999 pressures of negativity and criticism 1677 01:21:19,029 --> 01:21:17,090 and trying to fight the system you're 1678 01:21:19,430 --> 01:21:19,039 not going to win you're simply not going 1679 01:21:21,980 --> 01:21:19,440 to win 1680 01:21:25,850 --> 01:21:21,990 if you don't believe that's your fault 1681 01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:25,860 because I have seen things bad and I 1682 01:21:31,910 --> 01:21:27,810 can't explain it I can't 1683 01:21:34,730 --> 01:21:31,920 and and to that end and I want to pick 1684 01:21:37,790 --> 01:21:34,740 this up after the break to that end this 1685 01:21:40,220 --> 01:21:37,800 is what's really strange you are working 1686 01:21:41,660 --> 01:21:40,230 with some pretty amazing technologies 1687 01:21:45,590 --> 01:21:41,670 we'll talk about that part after the 1688 01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:45,600 break but leading into that is this if I 1689 01:21:51,440 --> 01:21:48,330 see something strange in the sky right 1690 01:21:53,870 --> 01:21:51,450 it takes off from Earth and I watch it 1691 01:21:56,540 --> 01:21:53,880 fly up and did some crazy craft and it 1692 01:22:02,030 --> 01:21:56,550 flies off into the Stars I have a choice 1693 01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:02,040 here to make either its et right or it's 1694 01:22:08,030 --> 01:22:05,850 us using some technology that that the 1695 01:22:10,070 --> 01:22:08,040 government is not sharing with me 1696 01:22:12,020 --> 01:22:10,080 personally I don't have a car that can 1697 01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:12,030 fly to the moon right they're not 1698 01:22:18,740 --> 01:22:16,410 sharing this technology with me is is it 1699 01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:18,750 is the government right now in 1700 01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:22,650 possession of technology that could free 1701 01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:26,850 us all of the burdens of life oh my 1702 01:22:31,070 --> 01:22:29,250 goodness of course they're sitting on 1703 01:22:34,430 --> 01:22:31,080 technology that would have us all living 1704 01:22:39,590 --> 01:22:34,440 like inmortal billionaires and and 1705 01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:39,600 that's really why I care about the the 1706 01:22:45,500 --> 01:22:43,650 et subject you cannot understand UFOs 1707 01:22:48,100 --> 01:22:45,510 truly understand it without 1708 01:22:50,810 --> 01:22:48,110 understanding transdimensional physics 1709 01:22:54,350 --> 01:22:50,820 zero-point energy and the science of 1710 01:22:57,970 --> 01:22:54,360 consciousness and for those three things 1711 01:23:00,440 --> 01:22:57,980 to come into the mainstream we we I 1712 01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:00,450 personally believe that it's it's going 1713 01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:03,530 to be UFO disclosure that does that and 1714 01:23:09,350 --> 01:23:06,930 you know if we're talking about you know 1715 01:23:11,900 --> 01:23:09,360 building a culture in this community 1716 01:23:15,440 --> 01:23:11,910 that's confident about the rightness of 1717 01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:15,450 our position I think we can take heart 1718 01:23:20,300 --> 01:23:18,090 that we are on the winning side we've 1719 01:23:23,630 --> 01:23:20,310 been hearing for years oh this is the 1720 01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:23,640 year you know you know that this would 1721 01:23:28,550 --> 01:23:25,170 be an official announcement and it never 1722 01:23:31,340 --> 01:23:28,560 happens but I am seeing things happen 1723 01:23:32,830 --> 01:23:31,350 right now that are absolutely blowing my 1724 01:23:35,350 --> 01:23:32,840 mind you know a 1725 01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:35,360 oh I said the term deep state no one 1726 01:23:37,899 --> 01:23:36,530 knows what you're talking about now 1727 01:23:41,169 --> 01:23:37,909 they're down there talking about the 1728 01:23:44,169 --> 01:23:41,179 deep state on MSNBC CNN and Fox News 1729 01:23:47,350 --> 01:23:44,179 right you know you know you have Rob 1730 01:23:49,629 --> 01:23:47,360 Bigelow of Bigelow Aerospace who went on 1731 01:23:51,970 --> 01:23:49,639 60 minutes I'm sure you saw this and 1732 01:23:53,979 --> 01:23:51,980 said yep there's an et present the 1733 01:23:55,390 --> 01:23:53,989 government's covering it up and you know 1734 01:23:58,810 --> 01:23:55,400 I don't care if you think I'm crazy 1735 01:24:01,530 --> 01:23:58,820 because I know I'm right so I'm I'm 1736 01:24:04,419 --> 01:24:01,540 feeling more and more confident just 1737 01:24:05,740 --> 01:24:04,429 saying yeah this is what it is and you 1738 01:24:07,839 --> 01:24:05,750 know if you don't believe you better 1739 01:24:12,129 --> 01:24:07,849 start believing because you're in for 1740 01:24:14,620 --> 01:24:12,139 quite a wake-up call why would they keep 1741 01:24:16,839 --> 01:24:14,630 it from us there there's a hundred 1742 01:24:18,669 --> 01:24:16,849 different reasons but but why do you 1743 01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:18,679 think they would keep that technology 1744 01:24:23,530 --> 01:24:21,530 from us well see this is this is what 1745 01:24:26,250 --> 01:24:23,540 dr. Greer and the disclosure project I 1746 01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:26,260 think has done such an incredible job of 1747 01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:30,770 articulating that it's not just all 1748 01:24:35,919 --> 01:24:33,290 people will panic that that was a reason 1749 01:24:38,919 --> 01:24:35,929 a long time ago because it would disrupt 1750 01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:38,929 fundamentalist religion but really it's 1751 01:24:45,100 --> 01:24:41,050 about the technologies that would 1752 01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:45,110 completely obliterate the the extremely 1753 01:24:49,390 --> 01:24:47,449 oppressive macroeconomic system that we 1754 01:24:52,300 --> 01:24:49,400 are all living under and this is the 1755 01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:52,310 takeaway that I hope people get from 1756 01:24:58,120 --> 01:24:55,250 from the film and I don't know how great 1757 01:25:00,640 --> 01:24:58,130 of a job we did with it we tried to be 1758 01:25:03,310 --> 01:25:00,650 trying to give it as much time and 1759 01:25:05,620 --> 01:25:03,320 clarity as possible that you know let's 1760 01:25:07,390 --> 01:25:05,630 talk about free energy for just a second 1761 01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:07,400 but you know talk about free energy 1762 01:25:12,070 --> 01:25:10,010 technology you know a UFO isn't filling 1763 01:25:13,870 --> 01:25:12,080 up with excellent gasoline and jetting 1764 01:25:16,089 --> 01:25:13,880 across the universe no all right these 1765 01:25:17,859 --> 01:25:16,099 are pulling is these machines are 1766 01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:17,869 pulling energy out of the fabric of 1767 01:25:22,149 --> 01:25:20,090 space con and it's unlimited and it's 1768 01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:22,159 clean and it's available to all of us 1769 01:25:27,070 --> 01:25:24,530 and it's been available to us Tesla and 1770 01:25:29,740 --> 01:25:27,080 and it's and it's still being covered up 1771 01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:29,750 I mean you have you have documents from 1772 01:25:34,570 --> 01:25:32,449 a hundred years ago way before Roswell 1773 01:25:38,350 --> 01:25:34,580 talking about these energy systems that 1774 01:25:39,609 --> 01:25:38,360 are still classified top-secret and free 1775 01:25:42,100 --> 01:25:39,619 energy it's people like well that's 1776 01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:42,110 great you know wouldn't have to fill up 1777 01:25:46,649 --> 01:25:44,330 my car or I would have a low energy bill 1778 01:25:49,359 --> 01:25:46,659 they're missing the point 1779 01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:49,369 99% of the cost of making anything 1780 01:25:54,250 --> 01:25:51,770 whether it's a cell phone or you know 1781 01:25:55,180 --> 01:25:54,260 growing a piece of fruit or building a 1782 01:25:58,270 --> 01:25:55,190 skyscraper 1783 01:26:01,359 --> 01:25:58,280 I mean 99% of the cost of anything is 1784 01:26:03,189 --> 01:26:01,369 the energy that went into sourcing the 1785 01:26:05,879 --> 01:26:03,199 raw materials out of the ground shipping 1786 01:26:08,319 --> 01:26:05,889 it processing it shipping it again 1787 01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:08,329 assembling it in factories and on and on 1788 01:26:12,819 --> 01:26:10,130 and on and on when you bring the price 1789 01:26:15,270 --> 01:26:12,829 of energy to zero you're talking about 1790 01:26:17,770 --> 01:26:15,280 bringing the cost of manufacturing and 1791 01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:17,780 agriculture to zero you know I live in 1792 01:26:23,020 --> 01:26:20,570 California water should be the number 1793 01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:23,030 one export of California instead we have 1794 01:26:26,620 --> 01:26:25,250 a drought we've got the Pacific Ocean 1795 01:26:30,189 --> 01:26:26,630 sitting there why aren't we doing 1796 01:26:33,149 --> 01:26:30,199 desalinization and turning all of this 1797 01:26:36,700 --> 01:26:33,159 this dry land into you know fertile 1798 01:26:39,100 --> 01:26:36,710 organic farmland and exporting water to 1799 01:26:40,689 --> 01:26:39,110 the western United States well it's 1800 01:26:42,729 --> 01:26:40,699 because these salinization is too 1801 01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:42,739 expensive because the energy is too 1802 01:26:49,620 --> 01:26:45,170 expensive people don't realize because 1803 01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:49,630 it's not obvious how transformational 1804 01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:51,650 zero-point energy would be you're 1805 01:26:57,310 --> 01:26:54,530 talking about endless abundance for 1806 01:26:59,529 --> 01:26:57,320 everyone on this planet and and the 1807 01:27:01,899 --> 01:26:59,539 energy is just the tip of the iceberg 1808 01:27:04,089 --> 01:27:01,909 when it comes to the secret technologies 1809 01:27:06,430 --> 01:27:04,099 that have been suppressed because you've 1810 01:27:08,260 --> 01:27:06,440 got a handful of people call them 1811 01:27:10,839 --> 01:27:08,270 whatever you want the Cabal the 1812 01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:10,849 Illuminati majestic 12 whatever you got 1813 01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:14,050 a handful of oligarchs who are 1814 01:27:22,089 --> 01:27:18,050 full-blown fascist and don't want to 1815 01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:22,099 lose their grip on this planet we're 1816 01:27:26,950 --> 01:27:23,690 going to take a break right here well 1817 01:27:29,950 --> 01:27:26,960 said Michael well said I might have to 1818 01:27:32,890 --> 01:27:29,960 steal some of that for the future our 1819 01:27:36,549 --> 01:27:32,900 guest tonight Michael Missoula filmmaker 1820 01:27:38,049 --> 01:27:36,559 director of the film unacknowledged will 1821 01:27:41,510 --> 01:27:38,059 pick up everything when we come back 1822 01:27:47,480 --> 01:27:41,520 this is fade to black stay with us 1823 01:27:47,490 --> 01:27:57,340 [Music] 1824 01:28:03,550 --> 01:28:00,520 we're out here we listen to Jimmy Church 1825 01:28:06,020 --> 01:28:03,560 you're listening to pink and black 1826 01:28:08,900 --> 01:28:06,030 always on the edge of the hottest 1827 01:28:09,710 --> 01:28:08,910 alternative talk chilly church with fade 1828 01:28:16,730 --> 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1898 01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:19,910 Network hi I'm Lisa Vance you're 1899 01:31:24,940 --> 01:31:22,010 listening to Jimmy Church this is a 1900 01:31:28,770 --> 01:31:24,950 revolution the revolution will not be 1901 01:31:33,730 --> 01:31:28,780 televised the revolution is on radio 1902 01:31:33,740 --> 01:32:12,240 [Music] 1903 01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:14,710 man I could listen to that track all 1904 01:32:20,710 --> 01:32:15,530 night long 1905 01:32:23,290 --> 01:32:20,720 maybe we should doug aldrich flavo 1906 01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:23,300 phrase all right I'm your host Jimmy 1907 01:32:26,260 --> 01:32:25,970 church this is fade to black our guest 1908 01:32:28,480 --> 01:32:26,270 tonight 1909 01:32:33,100 --> 01:32:28,490 Michael Missoula he is a filmmaker award 1910 01:32:36,370 --> 01:32:33,110 winning filmmaker and director of dr. 1911 01:32:39,220 --> 01:32:36,380 Greer's new film unacknowledged and we 1912 01:32:41,950 --> 01:32:39,230 started to talk Michael about free 1913 01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:41,960 energy and that technology I want to 1914 01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:43,850 spend some time on that you are 1915 01:32:48,430 --> 01:32:47,210 certainly working with this now tell us 1916 01:32:53,470 --> 01:32:48,440 about some of the projects you're 1917 01:32:57,880 --> 01:32:53,480 working on well I don't want to give the 1918 01:33:00,670 --> 01:32:57,890 impression that I'm sitting on some free 1919 01:33:05,050 --> 01:33:00,680 energy technology because I'm definitely 1920 01:33:08,350 --> 01:33:05,060 not but I'm definitely helping trying to 1921 01:33:11,290 --> 01:33:08,360 help with some advocacy groups that I've 1922 01:33:15,610 --> 01:33:11,300 been working thanklessly and tirelessly 1923 01:33:19,060 --> 01:33:15,620 to to bring this out safely and I got 1924 01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:19,070 such a crash course in this during the 1925 01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:21,050 making of this film because we were we 1926 01:33:26,700 --> 01:33:23,810 were really hoping that we would be able 1927 01:33:30,490 --> 01:33:26,710 to feature one of these working devices 1928 01:33:33,490 --> 01:33:30,500 in the movie to show people that it's 1929 01:33:35,620 --> 01:33:33,500 that it's legit it's ready to go but 1930 01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:35,630 it's been ruthlessly suppressed up to 1931 01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:39,170 this point and we did spend some time 1932 01:33:46,210 --> 01:33:42,850 and a lot of money vetting devices and 1933 01:33:49,270 --> 01:33:46,220 we kept coming up against the the same 1934 01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:49,280 problems which is that you know someone 1935 01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:51,410 thinks they have a device but they 1936 01:33:56,440 --> 01:33:53,330 really don't you know they've just made 1937 01:34:01,090 --> 01:33:56,450 a mistake or they are a complete fraud 1938 01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:01,100 or my my favorite it would be someone 1939 01:34:08,130 --> 01:34:04,370 who does have a working device but they 1940 01:34:11,230 --> 01:34:08,140 are so stuck in the old paradigm of 1941 01:34:14,830 --> 01:34:11,240 bringing something to market and they 1942 01:34:18,910 --> 01:34:14,840 they don't understand the the unique 1943 01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:18,920 risks involved in this field and they 1944 01:34:24,850 --> 01:34:23,330 were not receptive to you know dr. Greer 1945 01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:24,860 and others 1946 01:34:29,140 --> 01:34:26,570 trying to explain to them that this 1947 01:34:32,440 --> 01:34:29,150 isn't like you know in inventing a 1948 01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:32,450 widget or an app and you just patent it 1949 01:34:37,480 --> 01:34:34,370 and you get some investment and you roll 1950 01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:37,490 it out you know you're number one you're 1951 01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:40,370 talking about technology like we touched 1952 01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:42,410 on before the break that's going to 1953 01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:45,290 disrupt every aspect of life on earth 1954 01:34:51,910 --> 01:34:49,370 and seriously cut into if not completely 1955 01:34:56,290 --> 01:34:51,920 abolish it would eventually abolish you 1956 01:34:59,110 --> 01:34:56,300 know a 300 trillion dollar industry and 1957 01:35:02,590 --> 01:34:59,120 every government and mafia and 1958 01:35:04,210 --> 01:35:02,600 corporation that depends on these old 1959 01:35:07,210 --> 01:35:04,220 energy systems and this old 1960 01:35:09,490 --> 01:35:07,220 infrastructure so there are plenty of 1961 01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:09,500 people out there who would have no 1962 01:35:15,250 --> 01:35:12,050 problem just putting a bullet in your 1963 01:35:17,740 --> 01:35:15,260 head or seizing your technology or both 1964 01:35:19,420 --> 01:35:17,750 and it's what we've seen over and over 1965 01:35:22,270 --> 01:35:19,430 and over again with inventors who've 1966 01:35:24,490 --> 01:35:22,280 created these technologies and it gets 1967 01:35:26,500 --> 01:35:24,500 seen you get you know slapped with a 1968 01:35:28,750 --> 01:35:26,510 national security order you know the men 1969 01:35:30,910 --> 01:35:28,760 in black suits come in and they say this 1970 01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:30,920 was threat to national security and they 1971 01:35:34,420 --> 01:35:33,170 take it and you're lucky if you get out 1972 01:35:37,390 --> 01:35:34,430 alive you know many have been 1973 01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:37,400 assassinated and dr. Greer the next time 1974 01:35:42,340 --> 01:35:39,890 he's on you should ask him about some of 1975 01:35:44,860 --> 01:35:42,350 these stories you know he's he's been 1976 01:35:48,060 --> 01:35:44,870 you know he's seen firsthand this was 1977 01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:48,070 happened and tried to help people avert 1978 01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:52,730 death and you know people just they they 1979 01:35:57,280 --> 01:35:54,410 don't listen or they don't know they 1980 01:36:01,030 --> 01:35:57,290 listen when it's too late and it's very 1981 01:36:02,620 --> 01:36:01,040 very sad so you know we did the course 1982 01:36:06,100 --> 01:36:02,630 of making this film and trying to 1983 01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:06,110 identify a working device that we can 1984 01:36:14,290 --> 01:36:09,770 feature our criteria was it had to be 1985 01:36:16,510 --> 01:36:14,300 over unity meaning it was you know it 1986 01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:16,520 was tapping into the zero-point field 1987 01:36:22,450 --> 01:36:18,770 and putting out more energy than it 1988 01:36:25,690 --> 01:36:22,460 takes in and and it had to be open 1989 01:36:28,060 --> 01:36:25,700 source and that's really where we came 1990 01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:28,070 up against a wall because the the old 1991 01:36:32,620 --> 01:36:30,410 business paradigm I guess it's still the 1992 01:36:33,730 --> 01:36:32,630 current business paradigm is you know 1993 01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:33,740 when you have something that's unique 1994 01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:36,610 and disruptive you put a patent on it 1995 01:36:44,580 --> 01:36:41,530 and you know the idea that you're going 1996 01:36:48,050 --> 01:36:44,590 to invent a zero point energy devise and 1997 01:36:51,359 --> 01:36:48,060 patent it and make trillions of dollars 1998 01:36:55,620 --> 01:36:51,369 you know retrofitting the entire planet 1999 01:36:58,160 --> 01:36:55,630 with this device is I have to agree with 2000 01:37:02,220 --> 01:36:58,170 dr. Greer that it's kind of a naive 2001 01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:02,230 position because number one every every 2002 01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:03,850 force on the planet is going to try to 2003 01:37:10,350 --> 01:37:06,250 stop you and they have endless resources 2004 01:37:13,350 --> 01:37:10,360 to do so but number two if you're truly 2005 01:37:16,439 --> 01:37:13,360 bringing out zero-point energy you know 2006 01:37:19,020 --> 01:37:16,449 we have to move into a new economic 2007 01:37:20,669 --> 01:37:19,030 system you know we have to assess a new 2008 01:37:22,830 --> 01:37:20,679 way of placing value on something 2009 01:37:25,890 --> 01:37:22,840 because right now we put a price on 2010 01:37:28,470 --> 01:37:25,900 something based on what the cost of 2011 01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:28,480 making it plus profit well that cost is 2012 01:37:37,350 --> 01:37:33,130 99 percent energy so how do we how do we 2013 01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:37,360 evaluate value in a post free energy 2014 01:37:41,790 --> 01:37:40,210 society it is tricky question so if 2015 01:37:43,830 --> 01:37:41,800 you're the guy who's invented this and 2016 01:37:46,530 --> 01:37:43,840 you put a patent on it and now you're 2017 01:37:50,430 --> 01:37:46,540 making trillions of dollars well how how 2018 01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:50,440 valuable are your trillions of dollars 2019 01:37:56,879 --> 01:37:53,050 in a world where you have endless 2020 01:38:00,030 --> 01:37:56,889 abundance for everyone right so it's 2021 01:38:02,300 --> 01:38:00,040 there's not an obvious answer to it but 2022 01:38:04,470 --> 01:38:02,310 this is where I feel you know these guys 2023 01:38:07,410 --> 01:38:04,480 who's brilliant guys but they just they 2024 01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:07,420 get in their own way and the priority 2025 01:38:14,250 --> 01:38:11,050 needs to be you know getting it out 2026 01:38:16,470 --> 01:38:14,260 there massively disclosing it to 2027 01:38:21,060 --> 01:38:16,480 millions of people the moment you know 2028 01:38:23,189 --> 01:38:21,070 you have a legitimate device and you 2029 01:38:25,260 --> 01:38:23,199 know and and dr. Guerra talks about this 2030 01:38:27,570 --> 01:38:25,270 being your strategic security you know 2031 01:38:29,550 --> 01:38:27,580 you could have tactical security which 2032 01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:29,560 is you know your traditional stuff 2033 01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:32,770 encryption having a secure location you 2034 01:38:36,990 --> 01:38:35,290 know what you normally would think about 2035 01:38:40,140 --> 01:38:37,000 think of when you know when it comes to 2036 01:38:43,260 --> 01:38:40,150 security but the strategic security is 2037 01:38:45,450 --> 01:38:43,270 what has kept dr. Greer alive which is 2038 01:38:47,700 --> 01:38:45,460 having millions of eyeballs watching 2039 01:38:49,470 --> 01:38:47,710 what you're doing you know when you've 2040 01:38:51,479 --> 01:38:49,480 got a fan base 2041 01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:51,489 that wants to see you succeed it's 2042 01:38:55,530 --> 01:38:53,650 really hard for the men in black suits 2043 01:38:57,660 --> 01:38:55,540 to come in and shut you down 2044 01:39:00,600 --> 01:38:57,670 well I check this out check this out I 2045 01:39:04,530 --> 01:39:00,610 have I'm holding it in my hand right 2046 01:39:08,250 --> 01:39:04,540 right here I have free energy right now 2047 01:39:10,950 --> 01:39:08,260 for the world in my hand right now right 2048 01:39:15,450 --> 01:39:10,960 now and and I've talked about this 2049 01:39:19,650 --> 01:39:15,460 before but it is so elementally simple 2050 01:39:20,330 --> 01:39:19,660 it's ridiculous okay now this is what it 2051 01:39:26,100 --> 01:39:20,340 is 2052 01:39:28,470 --> 01:39:26,110 automatic watch I'm a big watch 2053 01:39:30,390 --> 01:39:28,480 collector right and and I only have 2054 01:39:32,820 --> 01:39:30,400 automatic watches I'm holding it up to 2055 01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:32,830 the video cameras now this is an 2056 01:39:35,910 --> 01:39:35,170 automatic watch this is a nice watch 2057 01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:35,920 right 2058 01:39:41,870 --> 01:39:38,530 but this automatic watch does not have a 2059 01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:41,880 battery in it it's purely mechanical and 2060 01:39:47,130 --> 01:39:45,730 now you can wind it and if you wind it 2061 01:39:50,010 --> 01:39:47,140 you know with the winder on the side 2062 01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:50,020 it'll it'll run but also if you just 2063 01:39:55,740 --> 01:39:53,770 spin it in your hand or wear it and 2064 01:39:58,979 --> 01:39:55,750 while you wear it all day long the 2065 01:40:01,140 --> 01:39:58,989 movement of your hand winds the watch 2066 01:40:04,530 --> 01:40:01,150 there's a weight in the back that works 2067 01:40:07,470 --> 01:40:04,540 off of gravity and that that I'm holding 2068 01:40:11,070 --> 01:40:07,480 us up for to the camera and that weight 2069 01:40:13,070 --> 01:40:11,080 as it moves winds the watch so you don't 2070 01:40:16,590 --> 01:40:13,080 have to use the winder on the side now 2071 01:40:19,710 --> 01:40:16,600 how is how would this work if you took 2072 01:40:22,979 --> 01:40:19,720 this right here because the second hand 2073 01:40:25,770 --> 01:40:22,989 is always clicking right right right 2074 01:40:29,790 --> 01:40:25,780 it's always moving and so therefore if 2075 01:40:32,310 --> 01:40:29,800 you're always in the wind mode the 2076 01:40:34,620 --> 01:40:32,320 second hand will never stop technically 2077 01:40:36,420 --> 01:40:34,630 this watch will never stop running ever 2078 01:40:37,590 --> 01:40:36,430 there's no battery there's nothing 2079 01:40:40,650 --> 01:40:37,600 electronic about it 2080 01:40:44,840 --> 01:40:40,660 so if you made a large version of this 2081 01:40:47,550 --> 01:40:44,850 Michael you made a large version of this 2082 01:40:50,640 --> 01:40:47,560 self-winding mechanism and you made it 2083 01:40:53,340 --> 01:40:50,650 three feet in diameter right and now 2084 01:40:57,300 --> 01:40:53,350 what is powering the second hand here 2085 01:41:03,550 --> 01:41:00,730 poll comes out and attaches to a 2086 01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:03,560 generator and now the generator is 2087 01:41:10,420 --> 01:41:06,770 spinning and the the the mechanism is 2088 01:41:13,090 --> 01:41:10,430 always turning you now have energy 2089 01:41:17,260 --> 01:41:13,100 cranked into your house free for life 2090 01:41:21,940 --> 01:41:17,270 and that's it there there is no there is 2091 01:41:26,860 --> 01:41:21,950 no magical physics Tesla zero-point 2092 01:41:30,190 --> 01:41:26,870 sucking energy out of the grass the void 2093 01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:30,200 of space right if there isn't any of 2094 01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:32,650 that there isn't any crazy is it 2095 01:41:36,730 --> 01:41:34,850 outputting more than more energy is 2096 01:41:40,390 --> 01:41:36,740 coming in and and you're dealing with 2097 01:41:43,990 --> 01:41:40,400 with with electronics and no you're not 2098 01:41:48,220 --> 01:41:44,000 it's very very simple you crank it 2099 01:41:50,170 --> 01:41:48,230 it turns the generator and and and it 2100 01:41:53,550 --> 01:41:50,180 could run for two three days at a time 2101 01:41:57,190 --> 01:41:53,560 and you never even have to touch it free 2102 01:42:01,810 --> 01:41:57,200 100% free energy coming into your house 2103 01:42:04,210 --> 01:42:01,820 and if every house on the planet had one 2104 01:42:06,630 --> 01:42:04,220 of these there would be no electrical 2105 01:42:09,730 --> 01:42:06,640 plants it would they wouldn't exist 2106 01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:09,740 right and it is a very simple simple 2107 01:42:16,450 --> 01:42:12,050 thing and it sounds like you're at Monte 2108 01:42:19,240 --> 01:42:16,460 Carlo what was that that was cool me 2109 01:42:21,490 --> 01:42:19,250 yeah there was a motorcycle or something 2110 01:42:23,350 --> 01:42:21,500 my bike mmm there was a there was a 2111 01:42:27,280 --> 01:42:23,360 motorcycle yeah yeah sounded cool 2112 01:42:31,450 --> 01:42:27,290 sounded IndyCar ish so anyway and and 2113 01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:31,460 it's it's it's a it's a technology that 2114 01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:33,770 has existed in Switzerland right for a 2115 01:42:39,430 --> 01:42:36,290 couple of hundred years automatic 2116 01:42:42,550 --> 01:42:39,440 watches and the energy is in the spring 2117 01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:42,560 steel that's it right that's it the 2118 01:42:46,870 --> 01:42:45,170 spring steel is wound up and it's 2119 01:42:49,810 --> 01:42:46,880 because it's tight it's wanting to 2120 01:42:52,150 --> 01:42:49,820 release and that energy then turns gears 2121 01:42:53,860 --> 01:42:52,160 and then runs the watch make a big 2122 01:42:55,750 --> 01:42:53,870 version of that hook it up to a 2123 01:42:57,820 --> 01:42:55,760 generator outside of your house every 2124 01:43:01,570 --> 01:42:57,830 three days you walk outside crank it up 2125 01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:01,580 and you can even have wind self winded 2126 01:43:08,170 --> 01:43:04,610 right you can have wind power winding 2127 01:43:10,959 --> 01:43:08,180 the watch and and it would be the end of 2128 01:43:12,850 --> 01:43:10,969 everything I'm serious I've got the 2129 01:43:15,700 --> 01:43:12,860 technology I'm holding it in my hand 2130 01:43:19,479 --> 01:43:15,710 right now and afters there's no shortage 2131 01:43:23,169 --> 01:43:19,489 of good transitional technologies like 2132 01:43:25,839 --> 01:43:23,179 that but they've been the system is 2133 01:43:30,450 --> 01:43:25,849 rigged for these to fail we we subsidize 2134 01:43:33,279 --> 01:43:30,460 fossil fuels to such an extent that good 2135 01:43:37,810 --> 01:43:33,289 temporary transitional solutions like 2136 01:43:44,129 --> 01:43:37,820 solar can can barely compete and it's 2137 01:43:48,430 --> 01:43:44,139 just it just comes back to you know this 2138 01:43:51,700 --> 01:43:48,440 unfathomable monopoly that the the 2139 01:43:54,459 --> 01:43:51,710 energy companies you know have on our 2140 01:43:56,739 --> 01:43:54,469 civilization and it's the same group of 2141 01:44:00,310 --> 01:43:56,749 folks who own the energy companies the 2142 01:44:04,359 --> 01:44:00,320 defense companies our politicians our 2143 01:44:08,290 --> 01:44:04,369 media the infrastructure over which the 2144 01:44:11,799 --> 01:44:08,300 the Internet is broadcast I mean all of 2145 01:44:14,469 --> 01:44:11,809 it it's a handful of good old boys and 2146 01:44:17,350 --> 01:44:14,479 you know I got friends who laugh at me 2147 01:44:20,049 --> 01:44:17,360 like off you know you you're so silly 2148 01:44:22,540 --> 01:44:20,059 for Bolivian conspiracies but you know 2149 01:44:24,939 --> 01:44:22,550 for me it's you know you can you can 2150 01:44:26,950 --> 01:44:24,949 look up who owns these companies who 2151 01:44:28,810 --> 01:44:26,960 owns the banks who owns all this the 2152 01:44:32,259 --> 01:44:28,820 same group of people and for me it's 2153 01:44:37,089 --> 01:44:32,269 very naive to think that oligarchs will 2154 01:44:41,589 --> 01:44:37,099 not you know move in their own 2155 01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:41,599 self-interest and and so for me a to 2156 01:44:46,839 --> 01:44:44,210 dismiss conspiracy is actually a very 2157 01:44:50,379 --> 01:44:46,849 naive position but again that's just how 2158 01:44:52,569 --> 01:44:50,389 I'm approaching it logically I wanted to 2159 01:44:55,359 --> 01:44:52,579 a really quick announce to everybody 2160 01:44:57,100 --> 01:44:55,369 that and this just came in a few minutes 2161 01:45:00,509 --> 01:44:57,110 ago to us here 2162 01:45:06,459 --> 01:45:00,519 Peter Chang is going to be doing a live 2163 01:45:09,669 --> 01:45:06,469 a live broadcast with dr. Greer this 2164 01:45:11,950 --> 01:45:09,679 weekend at portal to ascension and we 2165 01:45:15,189 --> 01:45:11,960 are going to get the links up right now 2166 01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:15,199 in real time live in Twitter for 2167 01:45:22,180 --> 01:45:19,010 everybody to go and sign up for this 2168 01:45:24,700 --> 01:45:22,190 live event over the weekend okay 2169 01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:24,710 so go ahead and check it out here it is 2170 01:45:28,450 --> 01:45:27,050 I'm going to retweet this now and get 2171 01:45:33,790 --> 01:45:28,460 this out for everybody 2172 01:45:38,380 --> 01:45:33,800 dr. Greer dr. Greer I see I got a tight 2173 01:45:44,380 --> 01:45:38,390 and talk at the same time live event 2174 01:45:46,180 --> 01:45:44,390 this weekend boom done all right Peter 2175 01:45:53,770 --> 01:45:46,190 we got it out there for you and dr. 2176 01:45:56,020 --> 01:45:53,780 Greer and um and there you go okay got 2177 01:45:57,430 --> 01:45:56,030 that out there and everybody just click 2178 01:45:59,260 --> 01:45:57,440 on it right there and Twitter will get 2179 01:46:02,020 --> 01:45:59,270 it up on our Facebook page too as well 2180 01:46:05,410 --> 01:46:02,030 and you can go and check out dr. Greer 2181 01:46:08,290 --> 01:46:05,420 if if you sign up to the live stream 2182 01:46:10,180 --> 01:46:08,300 you'll have forever replay access which 2183 01:46:12,180 --> 01:46:10,190 means that you can replay the 2184 01:46:15,610 --> 01:46:12,190 presentation as many times as possible 2185 01:46:18,070 --> 01:46:15,620 forever which is kind of like free 2186 01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:18,080 energy right so there you go so for your 2187 01:46:21,130 --> 01:46:19,610 busy you have plans or whatever you can 2188 01:46:24,430 --> 01:46:21,140 go back and watch it later but there it 2189 01:46:27,070 --> 01:46:24,440 is we put the live stream up for you 2190 01:46:29,260 --> 01:46:27,080 when it comes to like this technology 2191 01:46:32,110 --> 01:46:29,270 you know I know it sounds really stupid 2192 01:46:36,670 --> 01:46:32,120 and simple you know when I bring this 2193 01:46:41,800 --> 01:46:36,680 analogy out of a watch right but it's 2194 01:46:44,080 --> 01:46:41,810 one of the funny things when the I want 2195 01:46:46,240 --> 01:46:44,090 to say this right the Patent Office will 2196 01:46:48,100 --> 01:46:46,250 not even entertain the idea of a free 2197 01:46:49,660 --> 01:46:48,110 energy device right that's it you bring 2198 01:46:54,040 --> 01:46:49,670 that to them they don't listen to you 2199 01:46:55,750 --> 01:46:54,050 and one of the things that watch 2200 01:46:58,959 --> 01:46:55,760 companies will tell you about an 2201 01:47:01,120 --> 01:46:58,969 automatic watch and you know and what it 2202 01:47:03,160 --> 01:47:01,130 is that you never have to wind it it 2203 01:47:05,229 --> 01:47:03,170 doesn't have a battery it will run 2204 01:47:08,860 --> 01:47:05,239 forever if you just wear it on your 2205 01:47:10,930 --> 01:47:08,870 wrist and it's mechanical right Michael 2206 01:47:14,020 --> 01:47:10,940 it's mechanical there's no magic here 2207 01:47:16,750 --> 01:47:14,030 and and that advertising is out there 2208 01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:16,760 right that's what they advertise and if 2209 01:47:23,290 --> 01:47:19,810 this is works then why wouldn't it work 2210 01:47:26,200 --> 01:47:23,300 on on a bigger scale and just use it to 2211 01:47:28,540 --> 01:47:26,210 power your house yeah problem solved 2212 01:47:31,720 --> 01:47:28,550 well I've got to play devil's advocate 2213 01:47:33,640 --> 01:47:31,730 and look I'm not an engineer and I'm a 2214 01:47:35,709 --> 01:47:33,650 filmmaker I'm not a scientist but I'll 2215 01:47:37,400 --> 01:47:35,719 I'll play devil's advocate and I'll pose 2216 01:47:41,900 --> 01:47:37,410 the question 2217 01:47:44,450 --> 01:47:41,910 what what energy does it require to to 2218 01:47:47,150 --> 01:47:44,460 make that watch mechanism right you know 2219 01:47:49,420 --> 01:47:47,160 again pulling the raw material to the 2220 01:47:51,590 --> 01:47:49,430 ground shipping them right you know 2221 01:47:54,320 --> 01:47:51,600 processing it forging the metals 2222 01:47:58,040 --> 01:47:54,330 assembling it one time go at what point 2223 01:48:00,620 --> 01:47:58,050 does it become more expensive to to 2224 01:48:02,930 --> 01:48:00,630 create your free energy watch device 2225 01:48:04,610 --> 01:48:02,940 than the energy it's putting out I don't 2226 01:48:08,120 --> 01:48:04,620 know I'm just playing devil's advocate 2227 01:48:11,630 --> 01:48:08,130 but the best-case scenario obviously is 2228 01:48:14,200 --> 01:48:11,640 endless clean free energy and you know 2229 01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:14,210 it's not it's not this pie-in-the-sky 2230 01:48:21,110 --> 01:48:18,810 thing it should be uh it should be the 2231 01:48:22,850 --> 01:48:21,120 minimum that we are demanding because 2232 01:48:25,010 --> 01:48:22,860 we've been sitting on these systems for 2233 01:48:27,920 --> 01:48:25,020 a hundred years and so we should accept 2234 01:48:30,980 --> 01:48:27,930 nothing less that's my opinion yeah yep 2235 01:48:34,370 --> 01:48:30,990 yep yep yep yep and and I when I was a 2236 01:48:36,440 --> 01:48:34,380 kid and why we are not here at this 2237 01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:36,450 point today is is beyond me 2238 01:48:42,590 --> 01:48:40,050 Elon Musk is doing his best but when I 2239 01:48:46,010 --> 01:48:42,600 was a kid when solar power was first 2240 01:48:47,480 --> 01:48:46,020 talked about in 1970 or where I was old 2241 01:48:51,290 --> 01:48:47,490 enough to understand what solar power 2242 01:48:54,110 --> 01:48:51,300 was and I thought to myself then and I'm 2243 01:48:57,650 --> 01:48:54,120 talking about I'm seven years old why 2244 01:49:00,920 --> 01:48:57,660 not make a car out of solar panels why 2245 01:49:04,330 --> 01:49:00,930 not make a plane out of solar panels why 2246 01:49:07,510 --> 01:49:04,340 not make everything out of solar panels 2247 01:49:11,830 --> 01:49:07,520 everything should just be solar paneled 2248 01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:11,840 everything ships planes cars trucks 2249 01:49:16,250 --> 01:49:14,010 everything should be a solar panel it 2250 01:49:18,110 --> 01:49:16,260 should be made out of it and then we 2251 01:49:21,260 --> 01:49:18,120 would be done right and here we are 2252 01:49:24,200 --> 01:49:21,270 today now it's 2017 we certainly have 2253 01:49:26,540 --> 01:49:24,210 the technology to do just that there's 2254 01:49:30,140 --> 01:49:26,550 flexible solar panels everywhere now and 2255 01:49:32,870 --> 01:49:30,150 we don't do it we just don't do it it 2256 01:49:35,960 --> 01:49:32,880 doesn't make sense well you know the the 2257 01:49:38,720 --> 01:49:35,970 solar panels that are getting you know a 2258 01:49:41,810 --> 01:49:38,730 hundred times more efficiency than the 2259 01:49:43,910 --> 01:49:41,820 best solar panels that Elon Musk has on 2260 01:49:46,820 --> 01:49:43,920 the market you know the ones that would 2261 01:49:48,230 --> 01:49:46,830 just blow those out of the water they 2262 01:49:51,350 --> 01:49:48,240 were slapped with national security 2263 01:49:53,540 --> 01:49:51,360 orders a long time ago why not just 2264 01:49:56,359 --> 01:49:53,550 the zero-point energy devices it's 2265 01:49:59,270 --> 01:49:56,369 anything that's going to cut too far 2266 01:50:03,109 --> 01:49:59,280 into the bottom line of the energy of 2267 01:50:05,270 --> 01:50:03,119 the fossil fuel monopoly so you know 2268 01:50:08,959 --> 01:50:05,280 I've been very critical of Elon Musk in 2269 01:50:11,120 --> 01:50:08,969 the past and I've warmed up to him and I 2270 01:50:15,020 --> 01:50:11,130 see what he's doing I think it's very 2271 01:50:18,350 --> 01:50:15,030 good but I do get frustrated with people 2272 01:50:19,669 --> 01:50:18,360 who sit back and get complacent and they 2273 01:50:22,160 --> 01:50:19,679 say well I don't have to worry about 2274 01:50:26,180 --> 01:50:22,170 these issues because Elon Musk is on the 2275 01:50:28,070 --> 01:50:26,190 case and you know the Tesla is a 2276 01:50:31,640 --> 01:50:28,080 beautiful car but we're still plugging 2277 01:50:34,160 --> 01:50:31,650 it into a coal powered grid you know 2278 01:50:35,689 --> 01:50:34,170 Solar has so much potential and I love 2279 01:50:38,479 --> 01:50:35,699 what he's doing with the with the the 2280 01:50:41,810 --> 01:50:38,489 roof panels I think it's incredible but 2281 01:50:43,970 --> 01:50:41,820 again we're still stuck in this linear 2282 01:50:47,290 --> 01:50:43,980 delivery system where we're sending 2283 01:50:52,580 --> 01:50:47,300 energy through a grid it's still 2284 01:50:56,330 --> 01:50:52,590 centralized and I would I just I can't 2285 01:50:59,959 --> 01:50:56,340 even imagine even if somebody who's been 2286 01:51:03,410 --> 01:50:59,969 you know steeped in this zero-point 2287 01:51:05,570 --> 01:51:03,420 energy you know mythology for a couple 2288 01:51:08,270 --> 01:51:05,580 years now I can't even imagine what our 2289 01:51:11,020 --> 01:51:08,280 civilization will look like when every 2290 01:51:14,450 --> 01:51:11,030 village every neighborhood on earth is 2291 01:51:17,600 --> 01:51:14,460 completely dependent when you when you 2292 01:51:19,490 --> 01:51:17,610 decentralize power you could have local 2293 01:51:24,620 --> 01:51:19,500 manufacturing local aggregate 2294 01:51:26,990 --> 01:51:24,630 agriculture completely independent of 2295 01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:27,000 any any big corporation or utility or 2296 01:51:31,850 --> 01:51:29,010 government it's really about getting our 2297 01:51:32,359 --> 01:51:31,860 sovereignty back and I'm very excited 2298 01:51:36,350 --> 01:51:32,369 about that 2299 01:51:38,359 --> 01:51:36,360 and I don't think it's a naive utopian 2300 01:51:41,149 --> 01:51:38,369 sort of vision of the world I think it's 2301 01:51:44,030 --> 01:51:41,159 extremely realistic and and there's no 2302 01:51:46,879 --> 01:51:44,040 excuse for it not already being a 2303 01:51:50,149 --> 01:51:46,889 reality so I will accept absolutely 2304 01:51:52,430 --> 01:51:50,159 nothing less than then full disclosure 2305 01:51:55,640 --> 01:51:52,440 of zero-point energy and I'm very 2306 01:51:59,359 --> 01:51:55,650 optimistic that we will see it not just 2307 01:52:02,540 --> 01:51:59,369 within our lifetimes but you know very 2308 01:52:04,850 --> 01:52:02,550 quickly the within ten years 2309 01:52:08,979 --> 01:52:04,860 sure and this is the thing 2310 01:52:12,080 --> 01:52:08,989 we've done this before this is not a new 2311 01:52:12,740 --> 01:52:12,090 project or endeavor we've done this 2312 01:52:16,180 --> 01:52:12,750 before 2313 01:52:19,729 --> 01:52:16,190 which is this if we really wanted to 2314 01:52:22,810 --> 01:52:19,739 install solar on every house on the 2315 01:52:27,500 --> 01:52:22,820 planet on every building on the planet 2316 01:52:29,930 --> 01:52:27,510 wind a wave technology if we really 2317 01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:29,940 wanted to do it we would be able to 2318 01:52:35,419 --> 01:52:32,850 solve the economic issues too everybody 2319 01:52:37,370 --> 01:52:35,429 would be put to work everybody would 2320 01:52:39,470 --> 01:52:37,380 have a job there would be manufacturing 2321 01:52:44,180 --> 01:52:39,480 coming out of the yin-yang there would 2322 01:52:47,120 --> 01:52:44,190 be all of that just fun in the Sun stuff 2323 01:52:50,180 --> 01:52:47,130 the economy would just get the kickstart 2324 01:52:52,609 --> 01:52:50,190 more houses built more of the every you 2325 01:52:55,040 --> 01:52:52,619 know it would be that kind of thing but 2326 01:52:58,070 --> 01:52:55,050 we don't do it it doesn't make any sense 2327 01:53:00,320 --> 01:52:58,080 if I was president of the world that's 2328 01:53:03,649 --> 01:53:00,330 what I would do bad I would rebuild 2329 01:53:05,390 --> 01:53:03,659 everything I would rebuild it all and 2330 01:53:07,520 --> 01:53:05,400 everybody would be employed there would 2331 01:53:10,370 --> 01:53:07,530 be money there would be economic flow 2332 01:53:12,200 --> 01:53:10,380 there would be all the agriculture would 2333 01:53:14,840 --> 01:53:12,210 kick into gear we would build new 2334 01:53:17,660 --> 01:53:14,850 schools and education and money and jobs 2335 01:53:22,270 --> 01:53:17,670 but nobody wants to do it it doesn't 2336 01:53:25,790 --> 01:53:22,280 make any sense well it makes sense when 2337 01:53:28,570 --> 01:53:25,800 you when you realize that the people who 2338 01:53:31,879 --> 01:53:28,580 are in a position to make that happen uh 2339 01:53:34,669 --> 01:53:31,889 were bought and paid for a long time ago 2340 01:53:36,859 --> 01:53:34,679 yeah and so they would sit if you and I 2341 01:53:40,160 --> 01:53:36,869 were sitting there right at the board 2342 01:53:42,859 --> 01:53:40,170 meeting of the Illuminati right we're 2343 01:53:46,820 --> 01:53:42,869 sitting in that crazy dark room where 2344 01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:46,830 these guys are like yeah right and we 2345 01:53:50,330 --> 01:53:48,570 proposed this and we could fix 2346 01:53:52,910 --> 01:53:50,340 everything in ten years on the entire 2347 01:53:59,629 --> 01:53:52,920 planet everything done let's go they 2348 01:54:02,479 --> 01:53:59,639 would go no right now No and that's 2349 01:54:04,490 --> 01:54:02,489 that's exactly how it would play out it 2350 01:54:05,899 --> 01:54:04,500 would interfere with their money you 2351 01:54:08,780 --> 01:54:05,909 know it would interfere with the 2352 01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:08,790 military-industrial complex obviously 2353 01:54:13,250 --> 01:54:11,489 oil until oil runs out of the ground and 2354 01:54:15,050 --> 01:54:13,260 there's nothing left they're going to 2355 01:54:18,479 --> 01:54:15,060 they're going to run that horse until it 2356 01:54:21,209 --> 01:54:18,489 dies and it they have no 2357 01:54:23,489 --> 01:54:21,219 interest in in the five billion people 2358 01:54:27,029 --> 01:54:23,499 on this planet that are suffering they 2359 01:54:27,810 --> 01:54:27,039 have no they don't even care no they get 2360 01:54:30,810 --> 01:54:27,820 off on it 2361 01:54:37,080 --> 01:54:30,820 your your you're dealing with people who 2362 01:54:40,620 --> 01:54:37,090 are deeply sociopathic and who get off 2363 01:54:43,259 --> 01:54:40,630 on death and destruction many of them 2364 01:54:45,359 --> 01:54:43,269 and then you have others and this is 2365 01:54:47,939 --> 01:54:45,369 just this is my understanding of it you 2366 01:54:50,339 --> 01:54:47,949 know I majestic 12 whatever you want to 2367 01:54:53,870 --> 01:54:50,349 call this committee that's been sitting 2368 01:54:57,779 --> 01:54:53,880 on this stuff it's not you know a 2369 01:55:00,689 --> 01:54:57,789 perfectly harmonious unified group all 2370 01:55:03,479 --> 01:55:00,699 all moving together with a single agenda 2371 01:55:06,390 --> 01:55:03,489 it's deeply fractured and you have 2372 01:55:09,569 --> 01:55:06,400 competing agendas including some people 2373 01:55:11,549 --> 01:55:09,579 who recognize that this should all come 2374 01:55:13,080 --> 01:55:11,559 out that we should disclose et that we 2375 01:55:16,109 --> 01:55:13,090 should disclose the technologies and we 2376 01:55:17,819 --> 01:55:16,119 should move to this new civilization but 2377 01:55:20,939 --> 01:55:17,829 they don't want to take on that burden 2378 01:55:23,040 --> 01:55:20,949 you know dr. Guerra talks about you know 2379 01:55:24,629 --> 01:55:23,050 these guys they say yeah we should bring 2380 01:55:26,640 --> 01:55:24,639 it out but I want to retire and go 2381 01:55:27,299 --> 01:55:26,650 fishing alright so and those are the 2382 01:55:28,620 --> 01:55:27,309 good guys 2383 01:55:31,649 --> 01:55:28,630 then you have the ones who are 2384 01:55:33,620 --> 01:55:31,659 full-blown Satanist and get off on death 2385 01:55:37,140 --> 01:55:33,630 and destruction and then you have the 2386 01:55:39,989 --> 01:55:37,150 hardcore religious fanatics who are 2387 01:55:44,399 --> 01:55:39,999 hell-bent on starting an interplanetary 2388 01:55:46,680 --> 01:55:44,409 war with ETS so that Jesus can come back 2389 01:55:48,419 --> 01:55:46,690 and we can you know and have the and 2390 01:55:51,029 --> 01:55:48,429 have the rapture or the apocalypse or 2391 01:55:55,979 --> 01:55:51,039 whatever so you have some really messed 2392 01:55:58,410 --> 01:55:55,989 up ideology who are controlling this 2393 01:56:01,379 --> 01:55:58,420 issue and it's a recipe for complete 2394 01:56:05,700 --> 01:56:01,389 chaos and and death and destruction and 2395 01:56:08,700 --> 01:56:05,710 we you know I I believe that we cannot 2396 01:56:11,279 --> 01:56:08,710 wait for these guys to do it we have to 2397 01:56:14,370 --> 01:56:11,289 wake each other up and you know 2398 01:56:18,180 --> 01:56:14,380 hopefully meet that critical threshold 2399 01:56:21,680 --> 01:56:18,190 where enough people you know are not 2400 01:56:24,509 --> 01:56:21,690 even just demanding this but but just 2401 01:56:25,890 --> 01:56:24,519 from a consciousness perspective I 2402 01:56:31,700 --> 01:56:25,900 believe that if you have enough people 2403 01:56:32,939 --> 01:56:31,710 who are aware of this and all are 2404 01:56:35,189 --> 01:56:32,949 anticipating this 2405 01:56:37,919 --> 01:56:35,199 new paradigm that we can collectively 2406 01:56:42,479 --> 01:56:37,929 manifest that and I actually believe 2407 01:56:45,449 --> 01:56:42,489 that disclosure and bringing out free 2408 01:56:49,680 --> 01:56:45,459 energy is actually physically impossible 2409 01:56:51,209 --> 01:56:49,690 until we you know a Maharishi Mahesh 2410 01:56:53,160 --> 01:56:51,219 Yogi who started Transcendental 2411 01:56:54,839 --> 01:56:53,170 Meditation he said it takes you need one 2412 01:56:57,439 --> 01:56:54,849 percent of the population to believe 2413 01:57:00,719 --> 01:56:57,449 something before it can become true and 2414 01:57:03,149 --> 01:57:00,729 and I believe that's the case with this 2415 01:57:05,939 --> 01:57:03,159 stuff I think just reaching a certain 2416 01:57:08,819 --> 01:57:05,949 level of awareness will be enough to 2417 01:57:11,699 --> 01:57:08,829 change the consensus reality that we're 2418 01:57:13,529 --> 01:57:11,709 living in and manifest the reality that 2419 01:57:15,750 --> 01:57:13,539 we should be living it this new 2420 01:57:17,549 --> 01:57:15,760 civilization but else that makes sense I 2421 01:57:19,500 --> 01:57:17,559 know it does it does we're going to pick 2422 01:57:21,839 --> 01:57:19,510 up on that when we come back our guest 2423 01:57:24,209 --> 01:57:21,849 tonight Michael Missoula director of the 2424 01:57:25,649 --> 01:57:24,219 film unacknowledged when we come back I 2425 01:57:27,750 --> 01:57:25,659 want to talk about some three-letter 2426 01:57:29,310 --> 01:57:27,760 agencies I want to talk about the men in 2427 01:57:31,529 --> 01:57:29,320 black I want to talk about threats 2428 01:57:38,629 --> 01:57:31,539 what is he experienced we'll find out 2429 01:57:47,760 --> 01:57:41,370 - Rob Halford the mental guard on Jimmy 2430 01:57:50,550 --> 01:57:47,770 Church radios car this is kg are a 2431 01:57:55,290 --> 01:57:50,560 digital broadcasting station Salt Lake 2432 01:57:57,149 --> 01:57:55,300 City Utah van Buren Arkansas Ranger 2433 01:57:59,310 --> 01:57:57,159 let's get this man for the ER staff 2434 01:58:01,800 --> 01:57:59,320 right away doctor we see this every day 2435 01:58:04,229 --> 01:58:01,810 heart attack or angina pain due to 2436 01:58:06,629 --> 01:58:04,239 blocked and clogged arteries chelation 2437 01:58:08,760 --> 01:58:06,639 can remove obstructions or blockages 2438 01:58:10,050 --> 01:58:08,770 from arteries and help avoid painful and 2439 01:58:12,600 --> 01:58:10,060 expensive surgery 2440 01:58:14,250 --> 01:58:12,610 now there's angiogram it's a liquid oral 2441 01:58:16,649 --> 01:58:14,260 chelation product that you take with 2442 01:58:18,990 --> 01:58:16,659 juice you start to feel the results fast 2443 01:58:20,580 --> 01:58:19,000 angio primm increases blood flow all 2444 01:58:22,890 --> 01:58:20,590 over the body and that means more energy 2445 01:58:25,890 --> 01:58:22,900 and strength to take on the day with 2446 01:58:28,740 --> 01:58:25,900 less aches and pain 60 years of research 2447 01:58:30,899 --> 01:58:28,750 has gone into chelation and angiogram is 2448 01:58:33,120 --> 01:58:30,909 the result a safe and easy way to 2449 01:58:35,550 --> 01:58:33,130 unblock your veins and arteries from 2450 01:58:36,930 --> 01:58:35,560 buildup that slow circulation taking dr. 2451 01:58:37,830 --> 01:58:36,940 Jones please report to the emergency 2452 01:58:39,810 --> 01:58:37,840 room right away 2453 01:58:42,959 --> 01:58:39,820 log on now for a special radio offer 2454 01:58:48,030 --> 01:58:42,969 from angiogram that's angiogram comm / 2455 01:58:49,770 --> 01:58:48,040 radio ang IO PRI M angiogram com / radio 2456 01:58:51,750 --> 01:58:49,780 are call eight seven seven eight a two 2457 01:58:53,490 --> 01:58:51,760 seventy two twenty one that's eight 2458 01:58:58,050 --> 01:58:53,500 seven seven eight a two seventy two 2459 01:59:01,379 --> 01:58:58,060 twenty one so you love talk radio then 2460 01:59:04,470 --> 01:59:01,389 you'll love talk stream live calm talk 2461 01:59:06,450 --> 01:59:04,480 stream live is always on 24/7 with the 2462 01:59:08,430 --> 01:59:06,460 best dreamin talk shows find your 2463 01:59:10,740 --> 01:59:08,440 favorite talkers and discover some new 2464 01:59:13,350 --> 01:59:10,750 ones it's free readily available online 2465 01:59:15,390 --> 01:59:13,360 or on the smartphone or tablet 2466 01:59:17,430 --> 01:59:15,400 finding your favorite talk shows all in 2467 01:59:20,820 --> 01:59:17,440 one place has gotten a whole lot easier 2468 01:59:22,320 --> 01:59:20,830 just go to talk stream live.com be sure 2469 01:59:26,340 --> 01:59:22,330 to download the free apps from Google 2470 01:59:28,590 --> 01:59:26,350 Play or the itunes app store your 2471 01:59:34,109 --> 01:59:28,600 contact for current news and trending 2472 01:59:35,850 --> 01:59:34,119 topics kgr a radio.com did you know that 2473 01:59:38,129 --> 01:59:35,860 when you're on the road with limited 2474 01:59:40,169 --> 01:59:38,139 data or Wi-Fi available you can still 2475 01:59:42,840 --> 01:59:40,179 listen to every minute a paid to black 2476 01:59:45,930 --> 01:59:42,850 by just calling six oh five five six two 2477 01:59:47,600 --> 01:59:45,940 four four eight two no smartphone app or 2478 01:59:49,850 --> 01:59:47,610 internet needed it's 2479 01:59:52,760 --> 01:59:49,860 your data plan and no extra costs if you 2480 01:59:55,340 --> 01:59:52,770 have unlimited minutes just call six oh 2481 01:59:57,800 --> 01:59:55,350 five five six two four four eight two 2482 01:59:59,930 --> 01:59:57,810 you can listen to me Jimmy Church on any 2483 02:00:12,830 --> 01:59:59,940 phone anytime anywhere 2484 02:00:16,520 --> 02:00:12,840 Gobekli Tepe you want to know a secret 2485 02:00:19,850 --> 02:00:16,530 I love all these I really love ponies 2486 02:00:24,379 --> 02:00:19,860 I'm serious I couldn't stay sane without 2487 02:00:29,620 --> 02:00:24,389 poor mr. Bush why fade to black because 2488 02:00:33,620 --> 02:00:31,490 this is fade to black 2489 02:00:37,310 --> 02:00:33,630 with Jimmy Church on the game changer 2490 02:00:39,710 --> 02:00:37,320 radio network and kgr a the global radio 2491 02:00:51,350 --> 02:00:39,720 alliance 2492 02:00:57,360 --> 02:00:54,120 all right welcome back fade to black 2493 02:00:59,010 --> 02:00:57,370 our guest tonight Michael Missoula great 2494 02:01:01,640 --> 02:00:59,020 conversation we're talking about free 2495 02:01:05,790 --> 02:01:01,650 energy and this portion of the show is 2496 02:01:07,500 --> 02:01:05,800 brought to you by life change t life 2497 02:01:09,180 --> 02:01:07,510 change t just go right now click on the 2498 02:01:11,220 --> 02:01:09,190 banners for life change t over on our 2499 02:01:15,300 --> 02:01:11,230 website and it'll take you straight to 2500 02:01:17,910 --> 02:01:15,310 get the t.com the best just go to the 2501 02:01:21,030 --> 02:01:17,920 specials page pick some stuff out and 2502 02:01:23,220 --> 02:01:21,040 just mention jimmy when you order either 2503 02:01:26,100 --> 02:01:23,230 online or over the phone and you're 2504 02:01:28,770 --> 02:01:26,110 going to get yourself some free shipping 2505 02:01:32,130 --> 02:01:28,780 now Michael I'm holding up to the bunker 2506 02:01:33,510 --> 02:01:32,140 cam these are a bunch I just went over I 2507 02:01:35,370 --> 02:01:33,520 have some watches here in the bunker 2508 02:01:37,800 --> 02:01:35,380 here's another one see that's an 2509 02:01:39,780 --> 02:01:37,810 automatic watch see that's what you look 2510 02:01:41,010 --> 02:01:39,790 for that's an automatic watch see that 2511 02:01:43,170 --> 02:01:41,020 see how it works 2512 02:01:46,080 --> 02:01:43,180 everybody that's an automatic loss these 2513 02:01:48,810 --> 02:01:46,090 are automatic you never wind them you 2514 02:01:51,330 --> 02:01:48,820 don't have to no batteries this runs 2515 02:01:54,090 --> 02:01:51,340 forever put this technology in your 2516 02:01:57,030 --> 02:01:54,100 house that's it think about that for a 2517 02:02:00,030 --> 02:01:57,040 second and we should we should contact 2518 02:02:03,210 --> 02:02:00,040 some investors get this engineered gear 2519 02:02:04,980 --> 02:02:03,220 it up make a big version of this and and 2520 02:02:07,650 --> 02:02:04,990 get it out there to the world 2521 02:02:11,340 --> 02:02:07,660 I talked about this a lot over the years 2522 02:02:12,330 --> 02:02:11,350 and it just it just seems so simple to 2523 02:02:16,320 --> 02:02:12,340 me okay Michael 2524 02:02:19,320 --> 02:02:16,330 men in black men in black now now you 2525 02:02:22,800 --> 02:02:19,330 are deep you okay before we get to the 2526 02:02:24,990 --> 02:02:22,810 men in black dr. Greer whenever he's in 2527 02:02:28,020 --> 02:02:25,000 public he's got the you know the armed 2528 02:02:30,540 --> 02:02:28,030 guards with them right they're wearing 2529 02:02:32,490 --> 02:02:30,550 the hero body cams right they're 2530 02:02:34,710 --> 02:02:32,500 videotaping the men and they are 2531 02:02:37,290 --> 02:02:34,720 standing around bids for realz of not 2532 02:02:39,750 --> 02:02:37,300 made-up stuff wearing the bulletproof 2533 02:02:45,000 --> 02:02:39,760 that you know there they are does he 2534 02:02:49,740 --> 02:02:45,010 really need that absolutely it's a it's 2535 02:02:53,570 --> 02:02:49,750 it's no joke he's had three members of 2536 02:02:57,330 --> 02:02:53,580 his team assassinated I was actually I 2537 02:03:00,600 --> 02:02:57,340 spent a weekend with him when I when I 2538 02:03:01,979 --> 02:03:00,610 first met him and was you know getting 2539 02:03:05,459 --> 02:03:01,989 to know him and discussing the cell 2540 02:03:09,239 --> 02:03:05,469 I went out to to Palm Springs for an 2541 02:03:12,750 --> 02:03:09,249 event and he was doing one of the one of 2542 02:03:14,939 --> 02:03:12,760 his seminars and afterwards a woman came 2543 02:03:18,689 --> 02:03:14,949 up to came up to us and she said that 2544 02:03:22,739 --> 02:03:18,699 her husband was on an assassination team 2545 02:03:27,029 --> 02:03:22,749 that was sent to to kill him and and 2546 02:03:32,009 --> 02:03:27,039 they were basically I've got to be 2547 02:03:34,379 --> 02:03:32,019 careful with what I say but it was there 2548 02:03:36,750 --> 02:03:34,389 was an intervention right before it 2549 02:03:37,649 --> 02:03:36,760 could happen because there were security 2550 02:03:41,029 --> 02:03:37,659 measures in place 2551 02:03:45,390 --> 02:03:41,039 but the point is that did you know he is 2552 02:03:49,109 --> 02:03:45,400 constantly under threat I think maybe a 2553 02:03:50,580 --> 02:03:49,119 little bit less so now and again I he 2554 02:03:52,290 --> 02:03:50,590 hasn't said this and I really can't 2555 02:03:55,830 --> 02:03:52,300 speak with any authority but I 2556 02:03:58,500 --> 02:03:55,840 personally expected more interference 2557 02:04:01,140 --> 02:03:58,510 than we got on this film and there 2558 02:04:03,989 --> 02:04:01,150 definitely was harassment there was 2559 02:04:06,359 --> 02:04:03,999 interference I did have a hard drive get 2560 02:04:07,830 --> 02:04:06,369 stolen out of the mail I have been 2561 02:04:14,430 --> 02:04:07,840 followed 2562 02:04:17,910 --> 02:04:14,440 they they noticed it and it wasn't the 2563 02:04:19,200 --> 02:04:17,920 first time that has happened but and 2564 02:04:20,779 --> 02:04:19,210 then there were there were some other 2565 02:04:23,759 --> 02:04:20,789 things that I don't want to talk about 2566 02:04:26,370 --> 02:04:23,769 in public no offense but some some 2567 02:04:29,580 --> 02:04:26,380 pretty frightening experiences but you 2568 02:04:31,979 --> 02:04:29,590 know wait wait wait wait wait wait when 2569 02:04:33,989 --> 02:04:31,989 you were followed what happened how did 2570 02:04:37,109 --> 02:04:33,999 you know how did you know you happened 2571 02:04:39,120 --> 02:04:37,119 they were just they were just we're just 2572 02:04:43,859 --> 02:04:39,130 being followed and we would notice the 2573 02:04:45,839 --> 02:04:43,869 the Carnell well as you be known when I 2574 02:04:50,520 --> 02:04:45,849 was alone it was a car but when I was 2575 02:04:54,299 --> 02:04:50,530 with some friends traveling there was a 2576 02:04:58,200 --> 02:04:54,309 there was a guy who was clearly you know 2577 02:05:00,509 --> 02:04:58,210 ex-military who who seemed to take very 2578 02:05:02,279 --> 02:05:00,519 close attention and you know you could 2579 02:05:04,950 --> 02:05:02,289 always dismiss it as paranoia but when 2580 02:05:08,279 --> 02:05:04,960 it's happening over and over again but 2581 02:05:10,890 --> 02:05:08,289 you know give me my big fear was that 2582 02:05:13,140 --> 02:05:10,900 they the powers that be would not let 2583 02:05:15,120 --> 02:05:13,150 the film come out there was so much 2584 02:05:17,910 --> 02:05:15,130 sabotage with 2585 02:05:20,460 --> 02:05:17,920 with serious now obviously serious came 2586 02:05:24,150 --> 02:05:20,470 out and I'll millions of people have 2587 02:05:25,590 --> 02:05:24,160 seen it but J they sabotaged it in other 2588 02:05:30,180 --> 02:05:25,600 ways 2589 02:05:32,430 --> 02:05:30,190 for example they they came out and said 2590 02:05:35,190 --> 02:05:32,440 well you know the little Atacama 2591 02:05:37,500 --> 02:05:35,200 humanoid that little baby et that they 2592 02:05:39,210 --> 02:05:37,510 did the DNA testing on in the in the 2593 02:05:42,390 --> 02:05:39,220 film they said well it's been thoroughly 2594 02:05:45,540 --> 02:05:42,400 debunked as human and the guy who did 2595 02:05:47,460 --> 02:05:45,550 the Gary Nolan who did the DNA testing 2596 02:05:49,560 --> 02:05:47,470 at Stanford University's you know the 2597 02:05:53,910 --> 02:05:49,570 head of genetic research over there he 2598 02:05:55,200 --> 02:05:53,920 was sort of forced to to to stop talking 2599 02:05:56,910 --> 02:05:55,210 about it 2600 02:05:59,040 --> 02:05:56,920 and allow them to run with this 2601 02:06:01,800 --> 02:05:59,050 narrative oh it's just a you know a 2602 02:06:04,760 --> 02:06:01,810 deformed human or deformed monkey baby 2603 02:06:08,190 --> 02:06:04,770 or whatever which it absolutely is not 2604 02:06:10,530 --> 02:06:08,200 but we didn't get that kind of 2605 02:06:15,390 --> 02:06:10,540 interference on unacknowledged and it 2606 02:06:18,810 --> 02:06:15,400 makes me think that there's some kind in 2607 02:06:23,460 --> 02:06:18,820 the disease have changed in our favor 2608 02:06:29,100 --> 02:06:23,470 and that we're being allowed to do this 2609 02:06:30,870 --> 02:06:29,110 on some level and then and by that I 2610 02:06:33,930 --> 02:06:30,880 mean not that we're not that you know 2611 02:06:35,340 --> 02:06:33,940 I'm secretly working for the CIA right 2612 02:06:37,050 --> 02:06:35,350 and putting out some kind of false 2613 02:06:39,150 --> 02:06:37,060 disclosure narrative that's not what I 2614 02:06:42,180 --> 02:06:39,160 mean right what I mean is that they 2615 02:06:44,430 --> 02:06:42,190 understand that they can't hold this 2616 02:06:46,980 --> 02:06:44,440 back anymore right we've already passed 2617 02:06:51,030 --> 02:06:46,990 a tipping point right and so it's better 2618 02:06:52,290 --> 02:06:51,040 to let the civilian efforts sort of do 2619 02:06:54,360 --> 02:06:52,300 the work that they should have done a 2620 02:06:58,650 --> 02:06:54,370 long time ago again that's just my 2621 02:07:00,120 --> 02:06:58,660 interpretation of the situation well let 2622 02:07:03,480 --> 02:07:00,130 me jump in let me jump in really quick 2623 02:07:06,180 --> 02:07:03,490 at the prime where there were a couple 2624 02:07:10,410 --> 02:07:06,190 maybe I can go to the the number of few 2625 02:07:11,370 --> 02:07:10,420 a very very suspicious-looking people 2626 02:07:14,700 --> 02:07:11,380 that were running around in the 2627 02:07:19,260 --> 02:07:14,710 background and a couple of them came up 2628 02:07:23,490 --> 02:07:19,270 to me and we're asking some ridiculous 2629 02:07:27,180 --> 02:07:23,500 questions and made me feel and read it 2630 02:07:27,610 --> 02:07:27,190 too uncomfortable right what I knew and 2631 02:07:33,430 --> 02:07:27,620 I 2632 02:07:33,790 --> 02:07:33,440 absolutely won there was no question 2633 02:07:36,610 --> 02:07:33,800 about it 2634 02:07:38,110 --> 02:07:36,620 and I called him out right and and when 2635 02:07:41,650 --> 02:07:38,120 I did that they disappeared 2636 02:07:45,490 --> 02:07:41,660 it was the trickiest thing did you see 2637 02:07:49,270 --> 02:07:45,500 this going on because I did I actually 2638 02:07:50,800 --> 02:07:49,280 didn't and it's because I was frankly I 2639 02:07:52,630 --> 02:07:50,810 was an emotional wreck 2640 02:07:53,950 --> 02:07:52,640 you were being Hollywood yeah you were 2641 02:07:55,960 --> 02:07:53,960 being Hollywood okay 2642 02:07:58,690 --> 02:07:55,970 I was I were it was my first big 2643 02:08:01,510 --> 02:07:58,700 premiere I was so nervous 2644 02:08:04,060 --> 02:08:01,520 I was having a complete panic attack I 2645 02:08:07,000 --> 02:08:04,070 had a bottle of wine at dinner before I 2646 02:08:09,400 --> 02:08:07,010 showed up and I spent and I spent the 2647 02:08:10,780 --> 02:08:09,410 entire film pacing in front of the 2648 02:08:12,880 --> 02:08:10,790 theater chain-smoking 2649 02:08:16,150 --> 02:08:12,890 praying that people would like the movie 2650 02:08:19,480 --> 02:08:16,160 right so I was and I was pretty much 2651 02:08:22,240 --> 02:08:19,490 oblivious to my to my surroundings yeah 2652 02:08:24,040 --> 02:08:22,250 I was with you you were talking some 2653 02:08:26,650 --> 02:08:24,050 pretty ridiculous stuff actually now 2654 02:08:28,120 --> 02:08:26,660 that I think about it yeah well no I 2655 02:08:31,120 --> 02:08:28,130 don't know about was that in film area 2656 02:08:34,210 --> 02:08:31,130 but I was scared to death you know I was 2657 02:08:36,460 --> 02:08:34,220 my first time being in the spotlight to 2658 02:08:39,130 --> 02:08:36,470 any degree and I was just praying that 2659 02:08:41,320 --> 02:08:39,140 people would would like the film but 2660 02:08:44,620 --> 02:08:41,330 I'll tell you you are the probably the 2661 02:08:45,670 --> 02:08:44,630 tenth or twelfth person to tell me about 2662 02:08:48,460 --> 02:08:45,680 these guys 2663 02:08:50,650 --> 02:08:48,470 right so it's you know and again it's 2664 02:08:54,240 --> 02:08:50,660 it's business as usual when you're 2665 02:08:57,160 --> 02:08:54,250 dealing with this stuff and you know 2666 02:09:01,060 --> 02:08:57,170 anyone who thinks that the dr. Greer is 2667 02:09:04,990 --> 02:09:01,070 just having a blast doing this and and 2668 02:09:07,720 --> 02:09:05,000 you know it is just you know doing this 2669 02:09:12,130 --> 02:09:07,730 for the fun of it is seriously kidding 2670 02:09:14,610 --> 02:09:12,140 themselves and and that was that's 2671 02:09:17,590 --> 02:09:14,620 something that I think people need to 2672 02:09:19,360 --> 02:09:17,600 understand about serious disclosure and 2673 02:09:22,360 --> 02:09:19,370 and him and the disclosure project in 2674 02:09:24,430 --> 02:09:22,370 this group is that this isn't a it's not 2675 02:09:26,770 --> 02:09:24,440 a vanity project and it's not about 2676 02:09:29,970 --> 02:09:26,780 building a brand 2677 02:09:32,470 --> 02:09:29,980 it's not about gaining notoriety you 2678 02:09:35,380 --> 02:09:32,480 know he took this on out of a sense of 2679 02:09:36,940 --> 02:09:35,390 duty and actually was I didn't even the 2680 02:09:39,670 --> 02:09:36,950 biggest surprise for me 2681 02:09:41,540 --> 02:09:39,680 um signing on and working with them is 2682 02:09:42,890 --> 02:09:41,550 to discover that he was dragged 2683 02:09:45,140 --> 02:09:42,900 making and screaming into this I mean 2684 02:09:47,590 --> 02:09:45,150 maybe that's an exaggeration but this 2685 02:09:51,110 --> 02:09:47,600 was sort of a burden that he took on 2686 02:09:53,900 --> 02:09:51,120 reluctantly when you realize that you 2687 02:09:58,850 --> 02:09:53,910 know what a constitutional crisis this 2688 02:10:01,430 --> 02:09:58,860 was you know he was just he was a the 2689 02:10:03,650 --> 02:10:01,440 story you know he was as a doctor he was 2690 02:10:06,170 --> 02:10:03,660 doing the ce-5 thing he was teaching 2691 02:10:08,630 --> 02:10:06,180 people how to make peaceful contact he 2692 02:10:10,580 --> 02:10:08,640 was running C SETI you know trying to 2693 02:10:12,350 --> 02:10:10,590 train people to be ambassadors and he 2694 02:10:15,260 --> 02:10:12,360 was getting knocks on the door hey 2695 02:10:18,110 --> 02:10:15,270 so-and-so at the DIA wants a briefing so 2696 02:10:20,240 --> 02:10:18,120 so if the CIA wants a briefing then it 2697 02:10:23,240 --> 02:10:20,250 got to you know James will be the CIA 2698 02:10:25,970 --> 02:10:23,250 director the Clintons and and that's 2699 02:10:28,130 --> 02:10:25,980 when he realized that the people who he 2700 02:10:30,620 --> 02:10:28,140 had always assumed would have a grip on 2701 02:10:32,330 --> 02:10:30,630 this absolutely didn't and he couldn't 2702 02:10:35,990 --> 02:10:32,340 believe that they were coming to him and 2703 02:10:37,790 --> 02:10:36,000 you know IIIi love reading the bad 2704 02:10:39,320 --> 02:10:37,800 reviews of the film and people know you 2705 02:10:42,050 --> 02:10:39,330 got some people who roll their eyes and 2706 02:10:44,120 --> 02:10:42,060 say all please like the CIA director 2707 02:10:47,420 --> 02:10:44,130 needs some doctor to brief them what it 2708 02:10:49,960 --> 02:10:47,430 what a joke give me a break but but the 2709 02:10:53,660 --> 02:10:49,970 truth is that this is so 2710 02:10:55,880 --> 02:10:53,670 compartmentalized and unacknowledged and 2711 02:10:58,340 --> 02:10:55,890 out of control and the chain of command 2712 02:11:01,040 --> 02:10:58,350 has been so broken but yet that yes 2713 02:11:05,390 --> 02:11:01,050 these people in a position of power were 2714 02:11:07,880 --> 02:11:05,400 going to this doctor because he had a 2715 02:11:11,120 --> 02:11:07,890 better grip on this than they did and 2716 02:11:13,220 --> 02:11:11,130 it's it's such a you know it's it's 2717 02:11:16,580 --> 02:11:13,230 terrifying once you accept that it's 2718 02:11:19,070 --> 02:11:16,590 that out of control so yeah I don't know 2719 02:11:21,260 --> 02:11:19,080 how I got this far off track but to come 2720 02:11:25,580 --> 02:11:21,270 back to what you asked me yes the 2721 02:11:28,490 --> 02:11:25,590 security is necessary and and and this 2722 02:11:30,290 --> 02:11:28,500 isn't this isn't fun you know this was 2723 02:11:34,100 --> 02:11:30,300 this was being done out of a sense of 2724 02:11:36,380 --> 02:11:34,110 duty and for me personally it was less 2725 02:11:39,230 --> 02:11:36,390 of a sense of duty and more that I was 2726 02:11:40,820 --> 02:11:39,240 just trying to you know it for me it 2727 02:11:42,770 --> 02:11:40,830 takes something like this to hold my 2728 02:11:45,380 --> 02:11:42,780 attention so I was never worried about 2729 02:11:48,530 --> 02:11:45,390 being in danger I'm just trying to not 2730 02:11:50,180 --> 02:11:48,540 be bored and this is what it takes so 2731 02:11:51,380 --> 02:11:50,190 you're saying that I shouldn't stand too 2732 02:11:53,419 --> 02:11:51,390 close to him in public 2733 02:11:57,590 --> 02:11:53,429 all right now fair enough fair 2734 02:12:00,979 --> 02:11:57,600 actually uh you've got he's got 2735 02:12:03,260 --> 02:12:00,989 protection yeah well he's got like that 2736 02:12:05,990 --> 02:12:03,270 what which I can't talk about but let's 2737 02:12:09,410 --> 02:12:06,000 just say he's not too worried anymore 2738 02:12:16,640 --> 02:12:09,420 and neither should you so I wanted to 2739 02:12:18,800 --> 02:12:16,650 talk about Adam Curry Adam Adam is Adam 2740 02:12:22,330 --> 02:12:18,810 has been running around behind the 2741 02:12:25,100 --> 02:12:22,340 scenes you know we we talk as you know 2742 02:12:27,350 --> 02:12:25,110 we've done this together but but he's 2743 02:12:30,709 --> 02:12:27,360 running around behind the scenes and I 2744 02:12:32,120 --> 02:12:30,719 think a lot of people have seen him but 2745 02:12:35,720 --> 02:12:32,130 they don't know anything about him they 2746 02:12:39,050 --> 02:12:35,730 don't know who he is and he has not come 2747 02:12:43,729 --> 02:12:39,060 out into the limelight just yet as you 2748 02:12:45,680 --> 02:12:43,739 know I've been encouraging him to to to 2749 02:12:46,490 --> 02:12:45,690 get off the pot here and let's start to 2750 02:12:50,840 --> 02:12:46,500 move forward 2751 02:12:54,320 --> 02:12:50,850 who is Adam Curry well Adam who's Adam 2752 02:12:57,979 --> 02:12:54,330 is my best friend and he is one of the 2753 02:13:01,880 --> 02:12:57,989 most humble sweet guys I've ever met and 2754 02:13:05,390 --> 02:13:01,890 he's an absolute genius and everyone is 2755 02:13:08,870 --> 02:13:05,400 going to know his name very soon you 2756 02:13:10,970 --> 02:13:08,880 know I actually met him at the Sirius 2757 02:13:14,330 --> 02:13:10,980 premiere at the after party 2758 02:13:17,570 --> 02:13:14,340 and I'm and it was a meeting that 2759 02:13:22,399 --> 02:13:17,580 changed my life because when I found out 2760 02:13:25,550 --> 02:13:22,409 what he was working on I I actually left 2761 02:13:28,130 --> 02:13:25,560 my job in film development I was a 2762 02:13:31,160 --> 02:13:28,140 development executive Hollywood and I 2763 02:13:36,140 --> 02:13:31,170 quit so shortly after meeting him just 2764 02:13:40,340 --> 02:13:36,150 to volunteer with what he's been been 2765 02:13:43,310 --> 02:13:40,350 working on he was he was an intern at 2766 02:13:45,590 --> 02:13:43,320 the Princeton pear lab stands for 2767 02:13:48,110 --> 02:13:45,600 Princeton engineering anomalies research 2768 02:13:50,720 --> 02:13:48,120 lab which was founded by a guy a guy 2769 02:13:52,790 --> 02:13:50,730 named Bob John Bob John created the 2770 02:13:54,669 --> 02:13:52,800 whole field of plasma physics we've got 2771 02:13:58,040 --> 02:13:54,679 this this whole generation of spacecraft 2772 02:14:00,729 --> 02:13:58,050 flying around because of him and at the 2773 02:14:04,520 --> 02:14:00,739 pear lab they were studying this 2774 02:14:06,779 --> 02:14:04,530 unexplained influence of our minds our 2775 02:14:08,939 --> 02:14:06,789 conscious intention 2776 02:14:12,799 --> 02:14:08,949 on the behavior of quantum level 2777 02:14:15,029 --> 02:14:12,809 phenomenon and what they found in 2778 02:14:17,220 --> 02:14:15,039 thousands of experiments and it's and 2779 02:14:20,459 --> 02:14:17,230 it's the research that's been continued 2780 02:14:24,209 --> 02:14:20,469 at the Institute of noetic science is 2781 02:14:26,250 --> 02:14:24,219 that you have this random this random 2782 02:14:29,970 --> 02:14:26,260 behavior of quantum phenomenon that 2783 02:14:35,370 --> 02:14:29,980 becomes ordered in when you introduce a 2784 02:14:38,520 --> 02:14:35,380 human with an intention and so the no 2785 02:14:41,399 --> 02:14:38,530 one really understands what this 2786 02:14:43,410 --> 02:14:41,409 interconnection is what the mechanism is 2787 02:14:45,810 --> 02:14:43,420 it allows our minds to influence 2788 02:14:47,790 --> 02:14:45,820 physical reality but the implication is 2789 02:14:50,790 --> 02:14:47,800 there is this deeper interconnection 2790 02:14:54,060 --> 02:14:50,800 between our consciousness and the 2791 02:14:56,430 --> 02:14:54,070 physical world around us and we know 2792 02:14:58,950 --> 02:14:56,440 enough about it that we can start 2793 02:15:01,410 --> 02:14:58,960 harnessing this to create some really 2794 02:15:04,109 --> 02:15:01,420 cool new technology and that's what Adam 2795 02:15:06,479 --> 02:15:04,119 is doing and you know when I when I 2796 02:15:10,560 --> 02:15:06,489 first met Adam you know he explained to 2797 02:15:12,209 --> 02:15:10,570 me that you know this this research has 2798 02:15:15,600 --> 02:15:12,219 been around for a long time they've been 2799 02:15:17,459 --> 02:15:15,610 documentaries made on it dozens and 2800 02:15:19,560 --> 02:15:17,469 dozens of papers published in 2801 02:15:23,359 --> 02:15:19,570 peer-reviewed journals and yet it's 2802 02:15:26,330 --> 02:15:23,369 still considered pseudoscience by the 2803 02:15:30,120 --> 02:15:26,340 materialist scientific establishment and 2804 02:15:32,430 --> 02:15:30,130 his idea was that what's going to bring 2805 02:15:34,529 --> 02:15:32,440 this into the mainstream is not another 2806 02:15:36,180 --> 02:15:34,539 research paper and not another 2807 02:15:37,620 --> 02:15:36,190 documentary even though we are going to 2808 02:15:40,040 --> 02:15:37,630 make a documentary that's the next 2809 02:15:43,410 --> 02:15:40,050 project but it's going to be useful 2810 02:15:48,299 --> 02:15:43,420 technology that's fun and exciting and 2811 02:15:52,379 --> 02:15:48,309 inspiring and and that's going to be 2812 02:15:54,859 --> 02:15:52,389 making it immediately relevant to people 2813 02:15:57,839 --> 02:15:54,869 so they could be having these magical 2814 02:15:59,310 --> 02:15:57,849 experiences and see the impact of their 2815 02:16:00,689 --> 02:15:59,320 thoughts and intentions right in the 2816 02:16:03,779 --> 02:16:00,699 palm of their hand on their other 2817 02:16:07,560 --> 02:16:03,789 smartphones and and also experience 2818 02:16:09,810 --> 02:16:07,570 synchronicities so when when he 2819 02:16:11,339 --> 02:16:09,820 explained this to me I was just this was 2820 02:16:15,180 --> 02:16:11,349 just like the most incredible thing ever 2821 02:16:16,919 --> 02:16:15,190 and so I've been working with him ever 2822 02:16:17,819 --> 02:16:16,929 since and trying to help him get get 2823 02:16:19,500 --> 02:16:17,829 this off the ground 2824 02:16:20,100 --> 02:16:19,510 and I know when we ran into you at 2825 02:16:22,020 --> 02:16:20,110 contacted 2826 02:16:23,970 --> 02:16:22,030 the desert you made you made the joke 2827 02:16:27,950 --> 02:16:23,980 you said oh let me guess out of next 2828 02:16:31,260 --> 02:16:27,960 month right right and you know it's a 2829 02:16:35,160 --> 02:16:31,270 it's a it's a little bittersweet because 2830 02:16:37,169 --> 02:16:35,170 you know we have been trying to get this 2831 02:16:38,790 --> 02:16:37,179 out for so long and we've set deadlines 2832 02:16:42,810 --> 02:16:38,800 for ourselves that we're a little bit 2833 02:16:45,980 --> 02:16:42,820 past going back to the technology I had 2834 02:16:50,429 --> 02:16:45,990 said to Adam I think you were even there 2835 02:16:54,679 --> 02:16:50,439 I said to Adam when we are when we are 2836 02:16:57,150 --> 02:16:54,689 on the very edge of Silicon Valley 2837 02:16:59,820 --> 02:16:57,160 software designers that are now talking 2838 02:17:02,879 --> 02:16:59,830 about qubits and quantum mechanics and 2839 02:17:05,940 --> 02:17:02,889 other world and parallel unit and living 2840 02:17:08,520 --> 02:17:05,950 in the matrix they are definitely on 2841 02:17:12,530 --> 02:17:08,530 board with this because their technology 2842 02:17:14,700 --> 02:17:12,540 now is actually dealing with non-local 2843 02:17:17,219 --> 02:17:14,710 technology quantum mechanics other 2844 02:17:19,080 --> 02:17:17,229 worlds theory and parallel worlds this 2845 02:17:23,129 --> 02:17:19,090 is what they're dealing with right now 2846 02:17:28,560 --> 02:17:23,139 in Silicon Valley and his technology if 2847 02:17:30,990 --> 02:17:28,570 this shows people that this actually can 2848 02:17:33,120 --> 02:17:31,000 occur and the software is in your 2849 02:17:35,129 --> 02:17:33,130 smartphone and it is in your hand and 2850 02:17:38,730 --> 02:17:35,139 we're dealing with synchronicities and 2851 02:17:42,480 --> 02:17:38,740 and stuff down on the atomic level then 2852 02:17:45,030 --> 02:17:42,490 it starts to get into proving quantum 2853 02:17:48,120 --> 02:17:45,040 theory and some of these science fiction 2854 02:17:50,669 --> 02:17:48,130 subjects as a reality and that's got to 2855 02:17:53,070 --> 02:17:50,679 be exciting technology and I and he's 2856 02:17:55,110 --> 02:17:53,080 very humble about it right I would 2857 02:17:56,879 --> 02:17:55,120 really he's extremely humble about it 2858 02:17:58,950 --> 02:17:56,889 and that's why I have to follow him 2859 02:18:01,230 --> 02:17:58,960 around and brag about how brilliant he 2860 02:18:03,509 --> 02:18:01,240 is you know the guy has an asteroid 2861 02:18:07,009 --> 02:18:03,519 named after him for one of his 2862 02:18:09,900 --> 02:18:07,019 inventions that he created as a teenager 2863 02:18:11,459 --> 02:18:09,910 but you would never guess it talking to 2864 02:18:13,560 --> 02:18:11,469 him because he's so soft-spoken and 2865 02:18:17,190 --> 02:18:13,570 humble and that's and that's what I love 2866 02:18:19,740 --> 02:18:17,200 about Adam you know I eyes I'm working 2867 02:18:22,530 --> 02:18:19,750 now with a lot of brilliant brilliant 2868 02:18:25,020 --> 02:18:22,540 engineers and I've tried to work with a 2869 02:18:28,530 --> 02:18:25,030 lot more and what you see over and over 2870 02:18:32,190 --> 02:18:28,540 again are guys who who know how 2871 02:18:33,870 --> 02:18:32,200 brilliant they are and don't know their 2872 02:18:36,509 --> 02:18:33,880 own limitations 2873 02:18:38,160 --> 02:18:36,519 and you know don't know how to build a 2874 02:18:40,349 --> 02:18:38,170 business around their technology but 2875 02:18:43,919 --> 02:18:40,359 they think they should be you know the 2876 02:18:46,530 --> 02:18:43,929 CEO the CLO the CTO and everything in 2877 02:18:50,700 --> 02:18:46,540 between and an atom is different in that 2878 02:18:53,639 --> 02:18:50,710 he's not an egomaniac and he actually is 2879 02:18:55,379 --> 02:18:53,649 a pretty damn brilliant businessman and 2880 02:18:58,410 --> 02:18:55,389 and knows how to bring this to market so 2881 02:19:00,419 --> 02:18:58,420 I'm very fortunate to to get to know him 2882 02:19:02,669 --> 02:19:00,429 and I'm all and we're all very fortunate 2883 02:19:03,689 --> 02:19:02,679 that this technology is in his hands 2884 02:19:07,919 --> 02:19:03,699 because it means that it's actually 2885 02:19:10,200 --> 02:19:07,929 going to reach the market and so it's 2886 02:19:12,479 --> 02:19:10,210 very very exciting and we're planning 2887 02:19:15,240 --> 02:19:12,489 some very cool experiments but I don't 2888 02:19:18,089 --> 02:19:15,250 want to speak out of turn here I really 2889 02:19:21,509 --> 02:19:18,099 want him to be the one to to announce 2890 02:19:25,769 --> 02:19:21,519 this and talk about it because it's his 2891 02:19:28,740 --> 02:19:25,779 technology and I'll let I'll let him 2892 02:19:30,570 --> 02:19:28,750 come on and and explain it but it's 2893 02:19:32,759 --> 02:19:30,580 going to be in my opinion the thing 2894 02:19:35,339 --> 02:19:32,769 that's going to really push this into 2895 02:19:39,200 --> 02:19:35,349 the mainstream the world and I'm taking 2896 02:19:42,059 --> 02:19:39,210 right now is I'm developing a film about 2897 02:19:43,889 --> 02:19:42,069 about him and this technology and 2898 02:19:45,629 --> 02:19:43,899 exploring these mysteries of 2899 02:19:48,559 --> 02:19:45,639 consciousness and synchronicity and 2900 02:19:50,460 --> 02:19:48,569 we're calling it the elephant because 2901 02:19:54,420 --> 02:19:50,470 consciousness is the elephant in the 2902 02:19:56,899 --> 02:19:54,430 room that is still unacknowledged so 2903 02:20:00,300 --> 02:19:56,909 that's in development right now and 2904 02:20:02,340 --> 02:20:00,310 we're still we're still courting the the 2905 02:20:04,410 --> 02:20:02,350 right partners for it and the right 2906 02:20:07,019 --> 02:20:04,420 distributor but we are going to we're 2907 02:20:08,700 --> 02:20:07,029 figuring that out and it's it's going to 2908 02:20:12,630 --> 02:20:08,710 be it's going to be absolutely amazing 2909 02:20:15,300 --> 02:20:12,640 well here we are again it's been two 2910 02:20:18,630 --> 02:20:15,310 months since I last saw Adam and when I 2911 02:20:20,910 --> 02:20:18,640 cracked my last joke that I say every 2912 02:20:23,070 --> 02:20:20,920 time I'm around um okay Adam two more 2913 02:20:25,320 --> 02:20:23,080 months right and and I cracked a joke 2914 02:20:28,769 --> 02:20:25,330 and here we are it's been two months 2915 02:20:30,300 --> 02:20:28,779 later when he said to me yeah okay I'm 2916 02:20:32,969 --> 02:20:30,310 feeling pretty good about two months 2917 02:20:39,439 --> 02:20:32,979 that was two months ago when is he going 2918 02:20:44,729 --> 02:20:39,449 to be on the show yeah two months ah 2919 02:20:46,109 --> 02:20:44,739 oh bad I know that and he's you know 2920 02:20:47,219 --> 02:20:46,119 he's like Jimmy I'll show it to you 2921 02:20:50,130 --> 02:20:47,229 right now I 2922 02:20:52,410 --> 02:20:50,140 I realize it you guys are right on the 2923 02:20:55,080 --> 02:20:52,420 edge right on the edge but this kind of 2924 02:20:58,109 --> 02:20:55,090 stuff we really need it our community 2925 02:21:01,410 --> 02:20:58,119 needs something like this that we can 2926 02:21:03,989 --> 02:21:01,420 that we can hold and we can use and and 2927 02:21:07,019 --> 02:21:03,999 we can enjoy but also show the rest of 2928 02:21:09,210 --> 02:21:07,029 the world that this is this is going on 2929 02:21:13,800 --> 02:21:09,220 here this is this is what our community 2930 02:21:16,800 --> 02:21:13,810 is doing absolutely and again making it 2931 02:21:18,029 --> 02:21:16,810 fun and interactive and engaging you 2932 02:21:20,399 --> 02:21:18,039 know most people aren't going to sit 2933 02:21:22,830 --> 02:21:20,409 down and read an academic paper 2934 02:21:26,279 --> 02:21:22,840 explaining how all of this works 2935 02:21:29,819 --> 02:21:26,289 so what we're honing right now is the 2936 02:21:31,920 --> 02:21:29,829 user experience and I think they're 2937 02:21:33,359 --> 02:21:31,930 going to be very pleased with the with 2938 02:21:36,059 --> 02:21:33,369 the outcome 2939 02:21:38,639 --> 02:21:36,069 you know people people always say well 2940 02:21:40,260 --> 02:21:38,649 how does the app read my mind you know 2941 02:21:43,529 --> 02:21:40,270 how does it know what I'm thinking and 2942 02:21:45,599 --> 02:21:43,539 this is such a misconception and I'd 2943 02:21:49,170 --> 02:21:45,609 like to just you know nip it in the bud 2944 02:21:52,349 --> 02:21:49,180 right now this you know Adams technology 2945 02:21:55,620 --> 02:21:52,359 does not read anybody's mind all that it 2946 02:21:57,809 --> 02:21:55,630 does is it's holding a mirror up to what 2947 02:21:59,849 --> 02:21:57,819 we're already doing all the time which 2948 02:22:02,309 --> 02:21:59,859 is affecting the world around us with 2949 02:22:04,859 --> 02:22:02,319 our thoughts and intentions and beliefs 2950 02:22:06,960 --> 02:22:04,869 and we're just giving you feedback on 2951 02:22:12,210 --> 02:22:06,970 that it's like it's like a thermometer 2952 02:22:15,450 --> 02:22:12,220 for for my matter interaction and do you 2953 02:22:19,469 --> 02:22:15,460 guys have a website up we do it's a it's 2954 02:22:21,630 --> 02:22:19,479 in Tangled org we will be revamping it 2955 02:22:23,460 --> 02:22:21,640 and making it a little sexier but you've 2956 02:22:26,939 --> 02:22:23,470 got all the info on there for the 2957 02:22:30,229 --> 02:22:26,949 flagship product and we've got some 2958 02:22:33,599 --> 02:22:30,239 other amazing I mean absolutely 2959 02:22:36,689 --> 02:22:33,609 astounding products that would be coming 2960 02:22:39,149 --> 02:22:36,699 out shortly after the apps that's on our 2961 02:22:42,510 --> 02:22:39,159 website but I can't talk about that yet 2962 02:22:44,580 --> 02:22:42,520 but I'll just say that what's on our 2963 02:22:46,380 --> 02:22:44,590 website is just the beginning of what's 2964 02:22:48,899 --> 02:22:46,390 to come it's going to be really exciting 2965 02:22:51,410 --> 02:22:48,909 okay I'm posting it up right now in 2966 02:22:56,729 --> 02:22:51,420 Twitter everybody's very simple 2967 02:22:58,649 --> 02:22:56,739 entangled dot org there it is done I 2968 02:23:00,480 --> 02:22:58,659 encourage everyone to get on the on the 2969 02:23:04,500 --> 02:23:00,490 waiting list for the food 2970 02:23:07,230 --> 02:23:04,510 for data and and you'll get to be with 2971 02:23:11,370 --> 02:23:07,240 one of the first ones to download it now 2972 02:23:13,290 --> 02:23:11,380 what is what's going on before we depart 2973 02:23:15,211 --> 02:23:13,300 here and I want to thank you for coming 2974 02:23:20,360 --> 02:23:15,221 out just an absolute wonderful 2975 02:23:23,341 --> 02:23:20,370 conversation the the distribution for 2976 02:23:28,110 --> 02:23:23,351 unacknowledged will it ever go into the 2977 02:23:30,631 --> 02:23:28,120 theaters probably not we do have some 2978 02:23:33,211 --> 02:23:30,641 groups who have rented out theaters and 2979 02:23:35,850 --> 02:23:33,221 have screened it for their community and 2980 02:23:38,490 --> 02:23:35,860 it did so well they did it a second or a 2981 02:23:43,200 --> 02:23:38,500 third time but now we're not looking at 2982 02:23:46,620 --> 02:23:43,210 any theater distribution again I'm under 2983 02:23:49,890 --> 02:23:46,630 NDA but it's a and in the coming months 2984 02:23:52,711 --> 02:23:49,900 it's going to be it's going to be more 2985 02:23:55,381 --> 02:23:52,721 and more accessible is all that I will 2986 02:23:58,560 --> 02:23:55,391 say but I encourage everyone to go out 2987 02:24:01,980 --> 02:23:58,570 and rent it um all of the proceeds goes 2988 02:24:05,640 --> 02:24:01,990 to the the new earth energy incubator 2989 02:24:09,120 --> 02:24:05,650 the dr. Greer is setting up which is you 2990 02:24:11,790 --> 02:24:09,130 know trying to set up this this network 2991 02:24:14,910 --> 02:24:11,800 of laboratories to develop the 2992 02:24:17,881 --> 02:24:14,920 zero-point energy technology so no one's 2993 02:24:19,890 --> 02:24:17,891 getting rich off of this we really want 2994 02:24:23,671 --> 02:24:19,900 to put our money where our mouth is and 2995 02:24:27,290 --> 02:24:23,681 and get the tech out there thank you so 2996 02:24:30,480 --> 02:24:27,300 much Michael and I'm only assuming that 2997 02:24:32,580 --> 02:24:30,490 because of your relationship now in 2998 02:24:34,830 --> 02:24:32,590 Hollywood with with the orchard that 2999 02:24:36,750 --> 02:24:34,840 that there are other projects that you 3000 02:24:39,540 --> 02:24:36,760 are working on and as they go into 3001 02:24:41,280 --> 02:24:39,550 development and release we'll talk about 3002 02:24:44,360 --> 02:24:41,290 it right here on the show and of course 3003 02:24:46,560 --> 02:24:44,370 we'll get Adam Curry on here as soon as 3004 02:24:48,930 --> 02:24:46,570 possible thank you so much my friend 3005 02:24:50,430 --> 02:24:48,940 Jimmy thank you so much with an absolute 3006 02:24:52,290 --> 02:24:50,440 pleasure man and I'm glad you got a 3007 02:24:54,720 --> 02:24:52,300 haircut but I'm sorry that you're not 3008 02:24:56,820 --> 02:24:54,730 wearing my hat anymore oh I'll still 3009 02:24:58,980 --> 02:24:56,830 wear the hat but man that hat was really 3010 02:25:01,770 --> 02:24:58,990 that was really helpful with my my 3011 02:25:04,500 --> 02:25:01,780 trainwreck hair oh really just it fix 3012 02:25:06,301 --> 02:25:04,510 everything I wanted to ask you a man 3013 02:25:09,030 --> 02:25:06,311 write that we're at the end here really 3014 02:25:10,530 --> 02:25:09,040 quick you went to skullenbones I posted 3015 02:25:11,700 --> 02:25:10,540 the picture of you standing out in front 3016 02:25:13,440 --> 02:25:11,710 of Skull and Bones 3017 02:25:14,970 --> 02:25:13,450 with the fade to black hat 3018 02:25:16,921 --> 02:25:14,980 did you pull that off and did anybody 3019 02:25:20,190 --> 02:25:16,931 come up and say anything to you did you 3020 02:25:23,040 --> 02:25:20,200 see anybody get out did you know I was 3021 02:25:25,140 --> 02:25:23,050 at Yale with Adam for a for a conference 3022 02:25:28,470 --> 02:25:25,150 it was the Society for scientific 3023 02:25:30,091 --> 02:25:28,480 exploration mostly looking at the kinds 3024 02:25:33,720 --> 02:25:30,101 of stuff that entangled his premise upon 3025 02:25:35,910 --> 02:25:33,730 that research and we just we found the 3026 02:25:37,500 --> 02:25:35,920 building and we just posed in front of 3027 02:25:39,690 --> 02:25:37,510 it unfortunately the doors were locked 3028 02:25:41,881 --> 02:25:39,700 and we couldn't go inside but I got to 3029 02:25:44,460 --> 02:25:41,891 say it is one of the creepiest buildings 3030 02:25:47,220 --> 02:25:44,470 you can just feel the negative energy of 3031 02:25:49,171 --> 02:25:47,230 that place and so I couldn't resist I 3032 02:25:51,900 --> 02:25:49,181 haven't been without my fade to black 3033 02:25:54,660 --> 02:25:51,910 hat since you gave it to me I've never 3034 02:25:56,881 --> 02:25:54,670 been a hat guy but you know you I put it 3035 02:25:59,131 --> 02:25:56,891 on because you gave it to me and I 3036 02:26:01,020 --> 02:25:59,141 wanted to be nice and then I never took 3037 02:26:03,180 --> 02:26:01,030 it off because it looks so good I was 3038 02:26:05,460 --> 02:26:03,190 getting tight like dude man every time I 3039 02:26:07,230 --> 02:26:05,470 see you you know but there you go 3040 02:26:09,660 --> 02:26:07,240 hey Michael thank you so much man a 3041 02:26:11,820 --> 02:26:09,670 great conversation tonight so say hello 3042 02:26:13,860 --> 02:26:11,830 to Adam for me and then we'll get you 3043 02:26:16,230 --> 02:26:13,870 guys on here on the show next month 3044 02:26:17,460 --> 02:26:16,240 thank you so much thank you Jimmy you're 3045 02:26:19,710 --> 02:26:17,470 the best have a great night 3046 02:26:21,390 --> 02:26:19,720 right back at you all right bye-bye 3047 02:26:24,270 --> 02:26:21,400 Michael Missoula 3048 02:26:27,210 --> 02:26:24,280 everybody entangled dot-org we've got 3049 02:26:29,790 --> 02:26:27,220 the website up in Twitter and we'll get 3050 02:26:32,520 --> 02:26:29,800 it out there to everybody in Tangled org 3051 02:26:34,320 --> 02:26:32,530 and I cannot wait to finally get Adam 3052 02:26:37,620 --> 02:26:34,330 Curry on the show Michael Missoula 3053 02:26:40,460 --> 02:26:37,630 bright guy there you go the director of 3054 02:27:01,420 --> 02:26:40,470 unacknowledged I'll be right back 3055 02:27:07,070 --> 02:27:04,550 hey what up Joshua vivica box here and 3056 02:27:12,139 --> 02:27:07,080 you are listening to my boy Jimmy Church 3057 02:27:15,380 --> 02:27:12,149 on Jimmy Jones radio calm despite 3058 02:27:22,969 --> 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that so that's 3128 02:31:18,341 --> 02:31:12,591 a smart young man very talented hated 3129 02:31:19,961 --> 02:31:18,351 NYU the elitist love it great 3130 02:31:24,041 --> 02:31:19,971 conversation Michael thank you so much 3131 02:31:25,360 --> 02:31:24,051 and for those insights and now I'm going 3132 02:31:27,520 --> 02:31:25,370 to open up the phone lines three two 3133 02:31:31,001 --> 02:31:27,530 three eight two five five zero four five 3134 02:31:33,791 --> 02:31:31,011 or three two three eight three two three 3135 02:31:37,421 --> 02:31:33,801 two seven five nine six nine five 3136 02:31:39,461 --> 02:31:37,431 because I want to talk about guy is a 3137 02:31:43,480 --> 02:31:39,471 new video report that they've released 3138 02:31:44,140 --> 02:31:43,490 on the mummy and have you seen it give 3139 02:31:45,640 --> 02:31:44,150 me a call 3140 02:31:48,400 --> 02:31:45,650 three two three eight two five five zero 3141 02:31:51,280 --> 02:31:48,410 four five three two three two seven five 3142 02:31:55,900 --> 02:31:51,290 nine six nine five it is certainly 3143 02:31:59,741 --> 02:31:55,910 shaking up our community I would say 3144 02:32:02,770 --> 02:31:59,751 that the overall the overall take 3145 02:32:06,640 --> 02:32:02,780 because the video itself and what you 3146 02:32:09,701 --> 02:32:06,650 see it it is so compelling and it's it's 3147 02:32:12,310 --> 02:32:09,711 an object it's not it's something 3148 02:32:14,911 --> 02:32:12,320 physical this isn't a piece of film this 3149 02:32:18,220 --> 02:32:14,921 isn't a videotape this isn't a slide 3150 02:32:21,070 --> 02:32:18,230 this isn't anything like that we are 3151 02:32:25,301 --> 02:32:21,080 talking about an actual mummy that 3152 02:32:28,421 --> 02:32:25,311 apparently has three digits on three 3153 02:32:32,230 --> 02:32:28,431 fingers three toes that are very very 3154 02:32:35,001 --> 02:32:32,240 long you can see them in the cat-scans 3155 02:32:36,741 --> 02:32:35,011 you can see that up on the screen 3156 02:32:39,470 --> 02:32:36,751 when they do that little piece with the 3157 02:32:44,930 --> 02:32:39,480 doctor to is well pretty pretty amazing 3158 02:32:46,701 --> 02:32:44,940 and the mummy itself had this brought up 3159 02:32:49,341 --> 02:32:46,711 a few times when I first saw it I 3160 02:32:51,441 --> 02:32:49,351 thought it was like a plaster cast and I 3161 02:32:52,731 --> 02:32:51,451 did originally think too as well I was 3162 02:32:55,551 --> 02:32:52,741 thinking 3d printing 3163 02:32:58,311 --> 02:32:55,561 I swear that popped in into my head and 3164 02:33:00,651 --> 02:32:58,321 we're going to address that but the the 3165 02:33:03,981 --> 02:33:00,661 white powder okay I've gotten a little 3166 02:33:08,211 --> 02:33:03,991 more information over the last 24 hours 3167 02:33:10,881 --> 02:33:08,221 of from some questions that were 3168 02:33:14,271 --> 02:33:10,891 presented at me and and I went in and 3169 02:33:16,791 --> 02:33:14,281 and did some investigation so question a 3170 02:33:18,891 --> 02:33:16,801 few people and so I wanted to touch upon 3171 02:33:22,011 --> 02:33:18,901 that a little bit so again if you've 3172 02:33:26,781 --> 02:33:22,021 seen the video give me a call 3 2 3 8 2 3173 02:33:27,951 --> 02:33:26,791 5 5 0 4 5 or 3 2 3 2 7 5 9 6 9 5 I do 3174 02:33:29,901 --> 02:33:27,961 want to know your thoughts 3175 02:33:34,371 --> 02:33:29,911 you know what did you think when you 3176 02:33:38,501 --> 02:33:34,381 first asad the responses that I have 3177 02:33:43,220 --> 02:33:38,511 gotten been overwhelmingly positive and 3178 02:33:46,401 --> 02:33:43,230 they are positive because it you see 3179 02:33:49,491 --> 02:33:46,411 what you see that's it you see what you 3180 02:33:51,861 --> 02:33:49,501 see in this and and the fact that this 3181 02:33:56,241 --> 02:33:51,871 is an you know a video of lights in the 3182 02:33:58,191 --> 02:33:56,251 sky or cities in the sky over Beijing or 3183 02:34:02,001 --> 02:33:58,201 what have you that's not the case here 3184 02:34:06,741 --> 02:34:02,011 we're talking about an actual a physical 3185 02:34:09,291 --> 02:34:06,751 being that is is here that is puts a 3186 02:34:11,451 --> 02:34:09,301 whole nother spin on all of this this 3187 02:34:14,601 --> 02:34:11,461 this is a different situation this is 3188 02:34:18,111 --> 02:34:14,611 not obviously the alien autopsy film or 3189 02:34:20,961 --> 02:34:18,121 the the Roswell slides this is something 3190 02:34:24,801 --> 02:34:20,971 physical but I wanted to touch upon a 3191 02:34:27,441 --> 02:34:24,811 couple of things number one I was sent a 3192 02:34:30,680 --> 02:34:27,451 couple of although let me go with the 3193 02:34:34,041 --> 02:34:30,690 number 10 a round number 10 emails that 3194 02:34:36,501 --> 02:34:34,051 was talking about the fact that this is 3195 02:34:41,001 --> 02:34:36,511 not a mummy because the organs are 3196 02:34:44,651 --> 02:34:41,011 intact and then there were some reports 3197 02:34:47,819 --> 02:34:44,661 out there that the cultures in Peru 3198 02:34:50,819 --> 02:34:47,829 would take the organs out 3199 02:34:54,389 --> 02:34:50,829 seeing them and put them back into the 3200 02:35:00,239 --> 02:34:54,399 body okay that's why the organs in this 3201 02:35:03,599 --> 02:35:00,249 case let's address this now these organs 3202 02:35:07,979 --> 02:35:03,609 were not removed the organs are intact 3203 02:35:10,919 --> 02:35:07,989 the body was not cut apart the organs 3204 02:35:13,260 --> 02:35:10,929 are in their original position how they 3205 02:35:16,589 --> 02:35:13,270 haven't decomposed or how the body 3206 02:35:20,669 --> 02:35:16,599 didn't blow up you know that's where 3207 02:35:22,379 --> 02:35:20,679 there's why you do remove the organs and 3208 02:35:23,789 --> 02:35:22,389 they figure that out a long time ago in 3209 02:35:26,069 --> 02:35:23,799 Egypt again I'm going to address this 3210 02:35:31,319 --> 02:35:26,079 directly that they had to take the 3211 02:35:34,889 --> 02:35:31,329 organs out and you know stuffing in the 3212 02:35:37,139 --> 02:35:34,899 body or what have you and and because of 3213 02:35:40,499 --> 02:35:37,149 you left the organs and it will blow up 3214 02:35:42,510 --> 02:35:40,509 right it would decompose and right so 3215 02:35:44,339 --> 02:35:42,520 that's that's that and what they would 3216 02:35:47,219 --> 02:35:44,349 do over in Egypt is they would put the 3217 02:35:49,709 --> 02:35:47,229 organs after they took about and claim 3218 02:35:51,989 --> 02:35:49,719 type they will put those in jars the 3219 02:35:56,039 --> 02:35:51,999 jars would sit next to the sarcophagus 3220 02:36:02,429 --> 02:35:56,049 and that's where the organ sat okay 3221 02:36:05,219 --> 02:36:02,439 this mummy the organs are intact they're 3222 02:36:10,979 --> 02:36:05,229 intact they were not removed so why go 3223 02:36:15,659 --> 02:36:10,989 outside of the normal way of doing 3224 02:36:18,300 --> 02:36:15,669 mummification in in in Peru of taking 3225 02:36:20,249 --> 02:36:18,310 the organs out and returning them back 3226 02:36:23,219 --> 02:36:20,259 into the body this was not done and how 3227 02:36:24,479 --> 02:36:23,229 come the body didn't just explode that's 3228 02:36:28,529 --> 02:36:24,489 pretty interesting to me 3229 02:36:31,829 --> 02:36:28,539 the and for it to survive the white 3230 02:36:34,289 --> 02:36:31,839 powder that's on the outside of this 3231 02:36:36,959 --> 02:36:34,299 mummy that is there as part of their 3232 02:36:39,779 --> 02:36:36,969 mummification process and drying it out 3233 02:36:42,569 --> 02:36:39,789 correctly also very interesting 3234 02:36:45,239 --> 02:36:42,579 underneath that white powder is the gray 3235 02:36:48,449 --> 02:36:45,249 skin the skin is gray because it has 3236 02:36:51,959 --> 02:36:48,459 aged right it is decomposed but the skin 3237 02:36:53,789 --> 02:36:51,969 is intact also very interesting the 3238 02:36:58,289 --> 02:36:53,799 other interesting part of this is there 3239 02:37:00,659 --> 02:36:58,299 are no ears right very strange you can 3240 02:37:03,179 --> 02:37:00,669 see the holes for the ears 3241 02:37:06,059 --> 02:37:03,189 for listening but the ears themselves 3242 02:37:08,159 --> 02:37:06,069 are not there there's something else 3243 02:37:11,300 --> 02:37:08,169 that's interesting the the lips are 3244 02:37:14,429 --> 02:37:11,310 intact and they're big when you look at 3245 02:37:16,979 --> 02:37:14,439 mummies from not only Peru but from 3246 02:37:19,590 --> 02:37:16,989 Egypt the lips are very thin and they 3247 02:37:24,330 --> 02:37:19,600 retract and you can see teeth and and so 3248 02:37:26,040 --> 02:37:24,340 forth um all right let me uh let me let 3249 02:37:27,449 --> 02:37:26,050 me grab a phone call here really quick 3250 02:37:31,080 --> 02:37:27,459 hi your life I'm fade to black who's 3251 02:37:33,479 --> 02:37:31,090 calling hi this is Marty from support 3252 02:37:36,239 --> 02:37:33,489 doing I'm doing good Marty how are you 3253 02:37:38,399 --> 02:37:36,249 tonight I'm doing pretty well pretty 3254 02:37:41,040 --> 02:37:38,409 well yeah I saw the video really 3255 02:37:44,010 --> 02:37:41,050 interesting but I have to say the jury 3256 02:37:45,869 --> 02:37:44,020 is out until we get to DNA results 3257 02:37:47,790 --> 02:37:45,879 that's right well now I have to I know I 3258 02:37:51,809 --> 02:37:47,800 have to kiss pretty compel it compelling 3259 02:37:55,199 --> 02:37:51,819 I saw the cap cam yeah the skeleton you 3260 02:37:56,880 --> 02:37:55,209 can see it but you know the results are 3261 02:37:59,159 --> 02:37:56,890 going to come in from the air or they're 3262 02:38:03,359 --> 02:37:59,169 in the other kind of holding out yeah no 3263 02:38:05,909 --> 02:38:03,369 they are not so this is we're going to 3264 02:38:08,099 --> 02:38:05,919 address some of this directly because I 3265 02:38:09,389 --> 02:38:08,109 don't want to speak for Gaia or the 3266 02:38:15,090 --> 02:38:09,399 people all right yeah 3267 02:38:18,659 --> 02:38:15,100 but Jay Weidner from Gaia is a he's the 3268 02:38:21,869 --> 02:38:18,669 senior content of the development of 3269 02:38:24,029 --> 02:38:21,879 content over at Gaia and he's going to 3270 02:38:26,550 --> 02:38:24,039 be on with me on coast on Friday night 3271 02:38:30,300 --> 02:38:26,560 to talk about this so we're going to get 3272 02:38:33,080 --> 02:38:30,310 some questions and that but then Jay 3273 02:38:35,519 --> 02:38:33,090 will be with us for a full show on 3274 02:38:38,849 --> 02:38:35,529 Monday on fade to black so we're going 3275 02:38:41,760 --> 02:38:38,859 to do two hours with Jay I have been 3276 02:38:47,069 --> 02:38:41,770 cleared with ask me anything that you 3277 02:38:50,159 --> 02:38:47,079 want okay so and I thought that's up now 3278 02:38:52,080 --> 02:38:50,169 I just well I know I wanted to say that 3279 02:38:54,899 --> 02:38:52,090 I agree with you dad do you 3280 02:38:56,790 --> 02:38:54,909 yeah yeah the video way I also I also 3281 02:39:00,029 --> 02:38:56,800 agree with what you said earlier that a 3282 02:39:02,279 --> 02:39:00,039 lot of right huh does not like to sound 3283 02:39:04,229 --> 02:39:02,289 like the rock book slide I've been going 3284 02:39:07,319 --> 02:39:04,239 over the there's the oldest podcast from 3285 02:39:09,179 --> 02:39:07,329 2015 and that was a huge fiasco and so 3286 02:39:11,399 --> 02:39:09,189 there's a lot a lot of riding on this 3287 02:39:12,840 --> 02:39:11,409 what was calling out with so many people 3288 02:39:14,070 --> 02:39:12,850 are really looking at looking at the 3289 02:39:16,020 --> 02:39:14,080 video 3290 02:39:17,940 --> 02:39:16,030 and they're kind of know they're going 3291 02:39:20,220 --> 02:39:17,950 to be judging our community our UFO 3292 02:39:23,600 --> 02:39:20,230 community based on other results of that 3293 02:39:26,220 --> 02:39:23,610 but it's all saying this whole project 3294 02:39:28,590 --> 02:39:26,230 yeah where does he's fine where do they 3295 02:39:30,840 --> 02:39:28,600 find us who found it I didn't really say 3296 02:39:31,350 --> 02:39:30,850 maybe where was it like really just calm 3297 02:39:33,180 --> 02:39:31,360 calm 3298 02:39:37,440 --> 02:39:33,190 come on some is here where does this 3299 02:39:42,240 --> 02:39:37,450 Molly well that Nazca okay and that's 3300 02:39:44,400 --> 02:39:42,250 why it's called Nazca on earth so there 3301 02:39:48,810 --> 02:39:44,410 you go I mean that I can speak about I 3302 02:39:52,320 --> 02:39:48,820 know that they the team itself went to 3303 02:39:53,940 --> 02:39:52,330 Cusco and so if you look at a map and 3304 02:39:57,090 --> 02:39:53,950 you see where Cusco is and you look 3305 02:40:00,900 --> 02:39:57,100 where an ask is it came from that area 3306 02:40:03,030 --> 02:40:00,910 the exact pinpoint I think that they 3307 02:40:04,860 --> 02:40:03,040 would want to keep some of that under 3308 02:40:08,540 --> 02:40:04,870 wraps because people would go down there 3309 02:40:11,100 --> 02:40:08,550 start digging holes in the ground and uh 3310 02:40:13,650 --> 02:40:11,110 yeah I mean at least at least for the 3311 02:40:16,170 --> 02:40:13,660 time being I think that that's the way 3312 02:40:17,761 --> 02:40:16,180 that things should play out I know if I 3313 02:40:20,551 --> 02:40:17,771 was involved that's how I would do it 3314 02:40:22,051 --> 02:40:20,561 you wouldn't want to cause a bunch of 3315 02:40:23,551 --> 02:40:22,061 trouble for yourself because the 3316 02:40:25,980 --> 02:40:23,561 government is going to go dude 3317 02:40:27,870 --> 02:40:25,990 we trusted you against other yeah I 3318 02:40:30,060 --> 02:40:27,880 pulled it remitted yeah you have the 3319 02:40:32,490 --> 02:40:30,070 support of it now the other thing is I 3320 02:40:36,060 --> 02:40:32,500 don't want this mummy to magically 3321 02:40:42,420 --> 02:40:36,070 disappear I don't want to have something 3322 02:40:45,690 --> 02:40:42,430 nutty happen here it needs to proceed 3323 02:40:48,570 --> 02:40:45,700 with the right funding which Gaia is 3324 02:40:50,511 --> 02:40:48,580 promising they're going to dump all the 3325 02:40:52,950 --> 02:40:50,521 money into this they want to have this 3326 02:40:55,020 --> 02:40:52,960 accurate and they don't want to have the 3327 02:40:57,810 --> 02:40:55,030 same mistakes that were done in the past 3328 02:41:04,190 --> 02:40:57,820 and let's let's be honest man Marty is 3329 02:41:08,520 --> 02:41:04,200 there if this goes south reputations are 3330 02:41:10,110 --> 02:41:08,530 completely damaged you know so I agree 3331 02:41:12,780 --> 02:41:10,120 I'm kind of nervous to be honest with 3332 02:41:13,500 --> 02:41:12,790 you what we all are because if this is 3333 02:41:16,650 --> 02:41:13,510 what it is 3334 02:41:17,160 --> 02:41:16,660 I really hope forgot to do what it 3335 02:41:20,130 --> 02:41:17,170 really--it 3336 02:41:23,520 --> 02:41:20,140 I mean the missing ear the shape of the 3337 02:41:27,290 --> 02:41:23,530 head I it's just the shape around the 3338 02:41:29,120 --> 02:41:27,300 the eye socket uh well 3339 02:41:32,450 --> 02:41:29,130 and your fingers get everything up under 3340 02:41:35,330 --> 02:41:32,460 the head and the legs just that is 3341 02:41:37,460 --> 02:41:35,340 something else that is just unbelievable 3342 02:41:39,200 --> 02:41:37,470 so I'm really looking forward to seeing 3343 02:41:41,929 --> 02:41:39,210 how this is going to turn out 3344 02:41:43,300 --> 02:41:41,939 yeah the feet and the bone structure in 3345 02:41:47,059 --> 02:41:43,310 the hands and the feet 3346 02:41:49,340 --> 02:41:47,069 really really really tripped me out dad 3347 02:41:53,420 --> 02:41:49,350 something I know that's really something 3348 02:41:55,510 --> 02:41:53,430 you notice really yeah so yeah did I 3349 02:41:58,910 --> 02:41:55,520 didn't say you're someone said that 3350 02:42:01,849 --> 02:41:58,920 there's it's been recorded in paintings 3351 02:42:05,150 --> 02:42:01,859 or petrol petrol Bratten pictures glyphs 3352 02:42:07,639 --> 02:42:05,160 where they have three fingered creatures 3353 02:42:09,950 --> 02:42:07,649 before yes I hadn't actually seen a bad 3354 02:42:12,500 --> 02:42:09,960 hurt I've heard of that being documented 3355 02:42:14,480 --> 02:42:12,510 somewhere on which were on walls and 3356 02:42:18,639 --> 02:42:14,490 cake and paintings and things like that 3357 02:42:20,900 --> 02:42:18,649 yes yes yes yes yes yes all of that is 3358 02:42:22,429 --> 02:42:20,910 it's been out to for longer we've talked 3359 02:42:24,740 --> 02:42:22,439 about and we've heard stories about 3360 02:42:27,800 --> 02:42:24,750 three fingered aliens I mean you know 3361 02:42:30,980 --> 02:42:27,810 that guy that goes back forever and 3362 02:42:33,050 --> 02:42:30,990 could this be why there's always weather 3363 02:42:35,240 --> 02:42:33,060 smoke there's fire right but you have 3364 02:42:38,059 --> 02:42:35,250 Obon legends and you have all of this 3365 02:42:40,750 --> 02:42:38,069 stuff and it gets repeated over time but 3366 02:42:42,920 --> 02:42:40,760 this stuff is always based on something 3367 02:42:45,740 --> 02:42:42,930 right it's always making time for 3368 02:42:49,610 --> 02:42:45,750 something now could this be it I mean 3369 02:42:53,510 --> 02:42:49,620 really could this be it and if it is 3370 02:42:56,750 --> 02:42:53,520 let's say if it is it then we are 3371 02:42:59,630 --> 02:42:56,760 looking at and I'm being serious about 3372 02:43:02,389 --> 02:42:59,640 this we are looking at years of study 3373 02:43:06,559 --> 02:43:02,399 before anybody is going to come out and 3374 02:43:09,500 --> 02:43:06,569 and and say definitively that this is 3375 02:43:12,139 --> 02:43:09,510 alien and offworld it'll be a long time 3376 02:43:15,590 --> 02:43:12,149 before that happens because it has to be 3377 02:43:19,099 --> 02:43:15,600 proven beyond any doubt at all but 3378 02:43:21,950 --> 02:43:19,109 certainly elsewhere about but if you 3379 02:43:24,139 --> 02:43:21,960 prove adult I would think that certain 3380 02:43:26,330 --> 02:43:24,149 people as I say Michael's new trimmer 3381 02:43:29,630 --> 02:43:26,340 yeah many people will always come up 3382 02:43:31,760 --> 02:43:29,640 then excuse why it isn't what it is you 3383 02:43:34,790 --> 02:43:31,770 know they're going to say maybe it works 3384 02:43:37,370 --> 02:43:34,800 even if you show me the DNA results but 3385 02:43:38,761 --> 02:43:37,380 it's not human they will still say this 3386 02:43:40,291 --> 02:43:38,771 is not alien yeah 3387 02:43:42,451 --> 02:43:40,301 here if you're dealing what's guested 3388 02:43:44,991 --> 02:43:42,461 maybe it'll take a generation or two and 3389 02:43:48,841 --> 02:43:45,001 certain people who know a certain a 3390 02:43:51,631 --> 02:43:48,851 certain generation of the current 3391 02:43:54,121 --> 02:43:51,641 skeptics instant and the classical 3392 02:43:56,730 --> 02:43:54,131 scientists they need to retire just 3393 02:43:58,350 --> 02:43:56,740 appear and then the new generations to 3394 02:44:00,150 --> 02:43:58,360 come in hopefully the Millennials the 3395 02:44:02,190 --> 02:44:00,160 kids who are coming up there and maybe 3396 02:44:04,051 --> 02:44:02,200 they'll be more open-minded or do yeah 3397 02:44:07,140 --> 02:44:04,061 you sound like a millennial by the way 3398 02:44:12,900 --> 02:44:07,150 let me say this let me say this I've got 3399 02:44:15,690 --> 02:44:12,910 a little bit uh well you talk about it 3400 02:44:18,001 --> 02:44:15,700 like late for you okay well I'll say 3401 02:44:20,541 --> 02:44:18,011 this when it comes to Shermer or the 3402 02:44:22,591 --> 02:44:20,551 debunkers and you know all of those 3403 02:44:25,591 --> 02:44:22,601 websites that are going to be out there 3404 02:44:29,131 --> 02:44:25,601 to tear this apart I invite that I 3405 02:44:32,011 --> 02:44:29,141 encourage that we need the collective 3406 02:44:35,070 --> 02:44:32,021 mind together to try to figure this out 3407 02:44:37,501 --> 02:44:35,080 but that being said the schirmer's out 3408 02:44:40,440 --> 02:44:37,511 there are going to say okay here's the 3409 02:44:41,551 --> 02:44:40,450 body but what else have you got this is 3410 02:44:45,871 --> 02:44:41,561 not enough 3411 02:44:49,081 --> 02:44:45,881 I'm going to say I'm good I agree well I 3412 02:44:51,991 --> 02:44:49,091 I need to say this to the audience you 3413 02:44:56,070 --> 02:44:52,001 need to understand I have been told 3414 02:44:58,940 --> 02:44:56,080 about some other things that are coming 3415 02:45:03,030 --> 02:44:58,950 into play here some of it is so 3416 02:45:06,301 --> 02:45:03,040 fantastical and so out there that if it 3417 02:45:08,791 --> 02:45:06,311 plays out like this mummy plays out if 3418 02:45:09,360 --> 02:45:08,801 it actually comes to pass then it's case 3419 02:45:11,461 --> 02:45:09,370 closed 3420 02:45:12,421 --> 02:45:11,471 I'm telling you it is that fantastical 3421 02:45:15,091 --> 02:45:12,431 it's that crazy 3422 02:45:17,220 --> 02:45:15,101 I mean imagine and I'm not suggesting 3423 02:45:20,371 --> 02:45:17,230 this but just imagine if they found like 3424 02:45:24,270 --> 02:45:20,381 a laser gun next to this thing right 3425 02:45:26,850 --> 02:45:24,280 it's something like that I'm not saying 3426 02:45:30,871 --> 02:45:26,860 it's some technical device no it is not 3427 02:45:34,980 --> 02:45:30,881 but it is that far out of a suggestion 3428 02:45:39,301 --> 02:45:34,990 okay it is that crazy so if this plays 3429 02:45:42,360 --> 02:45:39,311 hot you fellas know something I I do I 3430 02:45:44,461 --> 02:45:42,370 do and and this is what I said to them I 3431 02:45:46,020 --> 02:45:44,471 said look this is even too much for me 3432 02:45:50,671 --> 02:45:46,030 to suggest I'm not even going to go 3433 02:45:52,450 --> 02:45:50,681 there and so I just can't I can't it's 3434 02:45:56,520 --> 02:45:52,460 too much for my mind a rapper 3435 02:46:00,671 --> 02:45:56,530 it's crazy talk absolute crazy talk and 3436 02:46:04,591 --> 02:46:00,681 so more on this and this is what I've 3437 02:46:07,150 --> 02:46:04,601 been promised that over the coming weeks 3438 02:46:11,140 --> 02:46:07,160 some more and more information is going 3439 02:46:13,150 --> 02:46:11,150 to be slowly let out too much at one 3440 02:46:16,990 --> 02:46:13,160 time is too much it's just way too much 3441 02:46:18,341 --> 02:46:17,000 to deal with but it is going to be 3442 02:46:20,381 --> 02:46:18,351 coming out over the next couple of weeks 3443 02:46:22,600 --> 02:46:20,391 we'll be doing it on the show we're 3444 02:46:25,871 --> 02:46:22,610 going to do some stuff Friday night on 3445 02:46:26,440 --> 02:46:25,881 coasts and then Monday night on fade to 3446 02:46:30,371 --> 02:46:26,450 black 3447 02:46:32,711 --> 02:46:30,381 I think that some other stuff is going 3448 02:46:34,900 --> 02:46:32,721 to surface and it's going to be exciting 3449 02:46:36,841 --> 02:46:34,910 and and we are right in the middle of it 3450 02:46:38,261 --> 02:46:36,851 I'm telling you my head is spinning 3451 02:46:41,470 --> 02:46:38,271 spinning 3452 02:46:43,841 --> 02:46:41,480 I uh I'm looking forward to hearing I 3453 02:46:47,381 --> 02:46:43,851 it's something this is the biggest thing 3454 02:46:52,091 --> 02:46:47,391 that I can't ever ever yeah ever huge 3455 02:46:55,541 --> 02:46:52,101 huge can just I can just tweet it in it 3456 02:46:57,551 --> 02:46:55,551 sounds like you're in your garage okay 3457 02:46:59,770 --> 02:46:57,561 so y'all wanna hit that is that is that 3458 02:47:01,480 --> 02:46:59,780 alright now I took Airin me you don't 3459 02:47:03,671 --> 02:47:01,490 have to get on my end either the other 3460 02:47:05,890 --> 02:47:03,681 thing you know really that connection 3461 02:47:07,480 --> 02:47:05,900 yeah that's the next now you sound fine 3462 02:47:08,591 --> 02:47:07,490 man I'm just messing with you thank you 3463 02:47:11,770 --> 02:47:08,601 for the phone call Ari 3464 02:47:14,560 --> 02:47:11,780 and I will see you there but I will see 3465 02:47:17,740 --> 02:47:14,570 you tomorrow night there there you go 3466 02:47:19,751 --> 02:47:17,750 Marty from from the valley here you know 3467 02:47:21,251 --> 02:47:19,761 that's a it's really cool right here in 3468 02:47:24,251 --> 02:47:21,261 the valley a neighbor 3469 02:47:26,591 --> 02:47:24,261 ya know billy meier ray guns please no 3470 02:47:28,600 --> 02:47:26,601 I'm just suggesting that what I am 3471 02:47:30,100 --> 02:47:28,610 saying if you take that kind of idea 3472 02:47:31,930 --> 02:47:30,110 that kind of mindset right there 3473 02:47:35,110 --> 02:47:31,940 something that extreme something that 3474 02:47:38,910 --> 02:47:35,120 that there is there's some other stuff 3475 02:47:41,770 --> 02:47:38,920 going on I'm just saying I'm looking at 3476 02:47:44,921 --> 02:47:41,780 some posts that have been going on in 3477 02:47:47,410 --> 02:47:44,931 Twitter and also over in the chat rooms 3478 02:47:49,150 --> 02:47:47,420 about some of the speculations some of 3479 02:47:52,780 --> 02:47:49,160 the rumors that are out there you guys 3480 02:47:57,160 --> 02:47:52,790 aren't even close and you think what you 3481 02:47:59,381 --> 02:47:57,170 are are typing right now is pretty crazy 3482 02:48:03,440 --> 02:47:59,391 stuff I'm watching it I'm watching it 3483 02:48:08,930 --> 02:48:03,450 I'm not even in the ballpark 3484 02:48:11,150 --> 02:48:08,940 is way out there way he out there I'm 3485 02:48:15,171 --> 02:48:11,160 serious I was my only response today too 3486 02:48:18,530 --> 02:48:15,181 you know what man this is too much for 3487 02:48:20,780 --> 02:48:18,540 me to handle right now if it this is too 3488 02:48:24,110 --> 02:48:20,790 much so there you go 3489 02:48:27,290 --> 02:48:24,120 and and and and the video is is pretty 3490 02:48:30,430 --> 02:48:27,300 pretty fun to watch it's like I said 3491 02:48:34,520 --> 02:48:30,440 it's eye candy it's wonderful it's cool 3492 02:48:38,180 --> 02:48:34,530 it really really really is how somebody 3493 02:48:41,030 --> 02:48:38,190 it's possible how somebody could put 3494 02:48:44,360 --> 02:48:41,040 together a skeleton get it get it 3495 02:48:47,030 --> 02:48:44,370 covered make it look old make it appear 3496 02:48:50,030 --> 02:48:47,040 to be you know the carbon-dating all of 3497 02:48:53,000 --> 02:48:50,040 that is possible you can have a really 3498 02:48:55,270 --> 02:48:53,010 old debris and organic material inserted 3499 02:49:00,890 --> 02:48:55,280 and layered on and it was carbon dated 3500 02:49:03,560 --> 02:49:00,900 you know a 2000 BC thousand BC is zero 3501 02:49:05,210 --> 02:49:03,570 200 whatever you can do all of that I 3502 02:49:07,700 --> 02:49:05,220 get that there are guys out there that 3503 02:49:10,011 --> 02:49:07,710 probably have that kind of talent I get 3504 02:49:13,341 --> 02:49:10,021 some kind of cadaver get the skeleton 3505 02:49:15,381 --> 02:49:13,351 put it in that position and and layer it 3506 02:49:17,631 --> 02:49:15,391 and do all of this it's possible you 3507 02:49:20,450 --> 02:49:17,641 know make a three fingered hand and toes 3508 02:49:22,280 --> 02:49:20,460 and and somehow pull all of that off and 3509 02:49:26,180 --> 02:49:22,290 fool doctors and cat-scans 3510 02:49:28,460 --> 02:49:26,190 I guess it is possible okay and if that 3511 02:49:31,970 --> 02:49:28,470 is the case there's a talented dude out 3512 02:49:36,740 --> 02:49:31,980 there that needs a real job then that's 3513 02:49:39,080 --> 02:49:36,750 that's the truth okay this freak er chat 3514 02:49:41,301 --> 02:49:39,090 is pretty way out there yeah 3515 02:49:44,511 --> 02:49:41,311 so there's nothing you know Twitter 3516 02:49:48,410 --> 02:49:44,521 Twitter is uh is cool and all you guys 3517 02:49:51,830 --> 02:49:48,420 do your thing but that that that that's 3518 02:49:55,640 --> 02:49:51,840 pre courage at room you guys all right 3519 02:49:57,950 --> 02:49:55,650 oh man I can't wait for tomorrow night 3520 02:49:59,660 --> 02:49:57,960 I'll have some more information I've got 3521 02:50:01,761 --> 02:49:59,670 some other stuff and I'll see what I can 3522 02:50:05,000 --> 02:50:01,771 disclose tomorrow night we will continue 3523 02:50:07,520 --> 02:50:05,010 this amazing discussion of this video 3524 02:50:09,770 --> 02:50:07,530 that was released yesterday by Gaia all 3525 02:50:12,950 --> 02:50:09,780 right some of the news that you know 3526 02:50:15,650 --> 02:50:12,960 nothing about all right are you ready oh 3527 02:50:16,360 --> 02:50:15,660 oh I wanted to say this really quick 3528 02:50:19,930 --> 02:50:16,370 going back 3529 02:50:22,841 --> 02:50:19,940 to the video there's something else you 3530 02:50:27,011 --> 02:50:22,851 know about putting these mummies in 3531 02:50:29,170 --> 02:50:27,021 these positions for burial and 3532 02:50:30,940 --> 02:50:29,180 mummification right sitting with the 3533 02:50:35,530 --> 02:50:30,950 knees folded up to the chest and the 3534 02:50:38,200 --> 02:50:35,540 arms across the I mean how dead is the 3535 02:50:42,870 --> 02:50:38,210 body when is rigor mortis kicking in 3536 02:50:46,841 --> 02:50:42,880 here right because it looks to me or 3537 02:50:49,960 --> 02:50:46,851 with that these fingers are folded 3538 02:50:52,660 --> 02:50:49,970 around the arms so is that the way that 3539 02:50:54,670 --> 02:50:52,670 this was done in the past that these 3540 02:50:57,810 --> 02:50:54,680 other mummies I want to see evidence of 3541 02:51:00,490 --> 02:50:57,820 that because it I don't see that I see 3542 02:51:06,040 --> 02:51:00,500 this mummy looks to me like it's sat 3543 02:51:10,500 --> 02:51:06,050 down in this position that's me the that 3544 02:51:13,301 --> 02:51:10,510 lack of an opposable thumb yeah 3545 02:51:15,220 --> 02:51:13,311 somebody's been watching really good 3546 02:51:17,950 --> 02:51:15,230 really good funny movies what movie is 3547 02:51:20,140 --> 02:51:17,960 that from the lack of an opposable thumb 3548 02:51:21,160 --> 02:51:20,150 I can't remember I quoted all the time 3549 02:51:24,490 --> 02:51:21,170 all right 3550 02:51:27,970 --> 02:51:24,500 so but that seated position to me feels 3551 02:51:31,690 --> 02:51:27,980 like that body was limp you know that's 3552 02:51:33,610 --> 02:51:31,700 that it seemed like it was alive I don't 3553 02:51:37,120 --> 02:51:33,620 know I don't know just the way that it 3554 02:51:40,841 --> 02:51:37,130 hits me okay here we go the supervolcano 3555 02:51:44,620 --> 02:51:40,851 under Yellowstone National Park has once 3556 02:51:47,170 --> 02:51:44,630 again become the focal point because of 3557 02:51:49,330 --> 02:51:47,180 focus because scientists now have picked 3558 02:51:52,500 --> 02:51:49,340 up some pretty heavy 3559 02:51:55,110 --> 02:51:52,510 ominous earthquake activity this month 3560 02:51:56,980 --> 02:51:55,120 scientists from the University of Utah 3561 02:52:00,820 --> 02:51:56,990 responsible for monitoring the 3562 02:52:04,841 --> 02:52:00,830 supervolcano in Wyoming said a swarm of 3563 02:52:09,150 --> 02:52:04,851 now check this four hundred and 3564 02:52:13,110 --> 02:52:09,160 sixty-four earthquakes began on June 12 3565 02:52:16,480 --> 02:52:13,120 today is the 21st the biggest being of 3566 02:52:20,080 --> 02:52:16,490 4.5 magnitude on June 15th 3567 02:52:23,051 --> 02:52:20,090 now the 4.5 magnitude quake is the 3568 02:52:25,410 --> 02:52:23,061 largest to hit sends a 4.8 quake struck 3569 02:52:27,790 --> 02:52:25,420 in March of 2014 3570 02:52:29,590 --> 02:52:27,800 scientists noted that the energetic 3571 02:52:32,889 --> 02:52:29,600 sequence of earthquakes 3572 02:52:36,070 --> 02:52:32,899 included approximately 30 earthquakes of 3573 02:52:38,410 --> 02:52:36,080 a magnitude 2 and higher higher for 3574 02:52:42,399 --> 02:52:38,420 earthquakes of a magnitude 3 are higher 3575 02:52:44,710 --> 02:52:42,409 including today's magnitude 4.5 event 3576 02:52:47,320 --> 02:52:44,720 this is the highest number of 3577 02:52:52,420 --> 02:52:47,330 earthquakes at Yellowstone within a 3578 02:52:54,580 --> 02:52:52,430 single week in the past five years but 3579 02:52:59,550 --> 02:52:54,590 it is still fewer than the weekly counts 3580 02:53:04,990 --> 02:52:59,560 that were during the swarms of 2002 2004 3581 02:53:07,840 --> 02:53:05,000 2008 and 2010 but look at the sequence 3582 02:53:11,830 --> 02:53:07,850 of numbers isn't that interesting all 3583 02:53:14,380 --> 02:53:11,840 even very interesting is it getting 3584 02:53:19,570 --> 02:53:14,390 ready to blow let me tell you something 3585 02:53:22,420 --> 02:53:19,580 if if Yellowstone goes we all go 3586 02:53:25,620 --> 02:53:22,430 I'm not being fit I'm telling you right 3587 02:53:29,800 --> 02:53:25,630 now that is a nuclear winter real-deal 3588 02:53:33,250 --> 02:53:29,810 crazy event if it actually does happen 3589 02:53:34,750 --> 02:53:33,260 now although I don't deal with politics 3590 02:53:38,229 --> 02:53:34,760 on this show one of the things I have 3591 02:53:40,359 --> 02:53:38,239 talked about a lot in the past that I 3592 02:53:44,800 --> 02:53:40,369 have contemplated and thought about 3593 02:53:48,160 --> 02:53:44,810 going back to the mid 80s which is why 3594 02:53:51,099 --> 02:53:48,170 are we manufacturing outside of the 3595 02:53:53,410 --> 02:53:51,109 United States why are we doing this it 3596 02:53:55,030 --> 02:53:53,420 doesn't make sense we don't manufacture 3597 02:53:58,410 --> 02:53:55,040 anything here anymore 3598 02:54:03,760 --> 02:53:58,420 we really don't everything is imported 3599 02:54:08,830 --> 02:54:03,770 Ford announced today Ford announced 3600 02:54:13,179 --> 02:54:08,840 today that beginning in 2019 in about a 3601 02:54:16,840 --> 02:54:13,189 year year and a half American 3602 02:54:22,059 --> 02:54:16,850 Focus models the Ford Focus will be 3603 02:54:24,820 --> 02:54:22,069 imported from China that's right with 3604 02:54:28,240 --> 02:54:24,830 additional variants coming from Europe 3605 02:54:31,420 --> 02:54:28,250 later the car manufacturer estimates 3606 02:54:33,429 --> 02:54:31,430 that by ending production of the focus 3607 02:54:37,420 --> 02:54:33,439 in the United States and moving it to 3608 02:54:40,719 --> 02:54:37,430 China the Ford Motor Company will save 1 3609 02:54:42,850 --> 02:54:40,729 billion dollars and then there was this 3610 02:54:45,671 --> 02:54:42,860 icing on the cake 3611 02:54:50,770 --> 02:54:45,681 Ford's president of global operations 3612 02:54:53,860 --> 02:54:50,780 his name is Joe Hinrich said and I'm 3613 02:54:56,620 --> 02:54:53,870 quoting here consumers care a lot more 3614 02:54:59,711 --> 02:54:56,630 about the quality and the value than 3615 02:55:06,251 --> 02:54:59,721 they do about the sourcing location end 3616 02:55:11,291 --> 02:55:06,261 quote and that's a big pile of BS what 3617 02:55:14,560 --> 02:55:11,301 happened I thought that this was not 3618 02:55:22,091 --> 02:55:14,570 supposed to happen and especially from 3619 02:55:24,671 --> 02:55:22,101 Ford and I'm a Mustang guy all right 3620 02:55:26,831 --> 02:55:24,681 it's about to happen it's gonna happen 3621 02:55:29,680 --> 02:55:26,841 tomorrow the launch of the stratospheric 3622 02:55:32,591 --> 02:55:29,690 balloon carrying a fast-food chicken 3623 02:55:34,900 --> 02:55:32,601 sandwich to the edge of space well it's 3624 02:55:38,680 --> 02:55:34,910 been delayed until tomorrow Thursday 3625 02:55:41,081 --> 02:55:38,690 June 22nd that's right the sandwiches 3626 02:55:43,541 --> 02:55:41,091 four-day flight is a promotional stunt 3627 02:55:45,671 --> 02:55:43,551 for Kentucky Fried Chicken but it will 3628 02:55:48,551 --> 02:55:45,681 also serve as a valuable test for 3629 02:55:50,860 --> 02:55:48,561 worldview enterprises the company 3630 02:55:53,350 --> 02:55:50,870 developing high-altitude balloons for 3631 02:55:56,980 --> 02:55:53,360 applications ranging from weather 3632 02:55:59,860 --> 02:55:56,990 monitoring of course to launching flat 3633 02:56:03,930 --> 02:55:59,870 earthers into space so they can see the 3634 02:56:07,870 --> 02:56:03,940 globe with their very own round eyeballs 3635 02:56:11,700 --> 02:56:07,880 this is the first long-duration flight 3636 02:56:14,620 --> 02:56:11,710 of the company's straddle light balloon 3637 02:56:17,680 --> 02:56:14,630 vehicle and that concludes another 3638 02:56:23,051 --> 02:56:17,690 edition of fade to black I want to thank 3639 02:56:24,700 --> 02:56:23,061 Michael Michael Missoula sorry I got I 3640 02:56:26,569 --> 02:56:24,710 got to hit buttons and talk at the same 3641 02:56:29,059 --> 02:56:26,579 time 3642 02:56:30,920 --> 02:56:29,069 betablox executive producers rita Kumari 3643 02:56:32,929 --> 02:56:30,930 on shows produced by Hill Jay Paul Marty 3644 02:56:35,179 --> 02:56:32,939 colbaugh oj3 Renee Jonah Thank You 3645 02:56:37,819 --> 02:56:35,189 Dennis thank you Bob announces our Steve 3646 02:56:40,490 --> 02:56:37,829 harder Jean Patou mrdiko barf ad by Dale 3647 02:56:42,800 --> 02:56:40,500 webmaster drew the geek music doug 3648 02:56:45,319 --> 02:56:42,810 aldrich intro space boys space boy music 3649 02:56:50,059 --> 02:56:45,329 calm paid to black is produced by 3650 02:56:52,939 --> 02:56:50,069 kjsurya productions kanna a the planet 3651 02:56:54,469 --> 02:56:52,949 this broadcast is only copyright of 2017 3652 02:56:55,010 --> 02:56:54,479 by fade to black in the game changer 3653 02:56:57,050 --> 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